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   Ross Clark to All   
   Daniel Jones died (4/12/1967)   
   04 Dec 24 23:32:19   
   
   From: benlizro@ihug.co.nz   
      
   As I said in 2018:   
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   September 12 - Daniel Jones (1881)   
      
   First learned phonetics from William Tilly (an Australian!)   
   at Marburg, then from Paul Passy and Henry Sweet.   
      
   1917: - first linguist in the western world to use the term   
   "phoneme" in its current sense (in "The phonetic structure of the   
   Sechuana Language")   
   - first edition of _Pronouncing Dictionary of English_   
   in which "Received Pronunciation" (RP) is described, and the   
   Cardinal Vowel diagram first appears.   
      
   "Collins and Mees [biographers] speculate that it is Jones,   
   not as is often thought Henry Sweet, who provided George Bernard Shaw   
   with the basis for his fictional character Professor Henry Higgins in   
   Pygmalion.*   
      
   He was still alive and working until 1967, when I was already a   
   linguistics student.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Jones_(phonetician)   
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   [2024 note:] The Collins/Mees book is called "The Real Professor   
   Higgins". I haven't read it, but PTD had, and he was sure the issue was   
   settled: Higgins was (based on) Jones. More recently I think I cited   
   Sarah Ogilvie, in her 2023 book "The Dictionary People", saying that   
   there was no single "real Higgins"; the character was a composite of   
   various phoneticians Shaw had met, including Henry Sweet and A.J.Ellis.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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