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   On 2025-01-03 09:28:28 +0000, Athel Cornish-Bowden said:   
      
   > On 2025-01-02 21:53:52 +0000, Ross Clark said:   
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   >> On 1/01/2025 2:21 p.m., HenHanna wrote:   
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   >>> "Vitin e ri!" -------- Do lots of Ling-buffs know this lang, or phrase?   
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   >> I couldn't say. It's Albanian, the first item on the 50-language list.   
   >> The meager Albanian language resources within a 1m range of my keyboard   
   >> tell me that _vit_ means 'year' and _(i) ri_ means 'new'.   
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   > Google Translate recognizes it as Albanian -- pretty good for such a   
   > short piece of text with no give-away letters like ë in it.   
      
   If your browser didn't display it it properly, the letter is e with a   
   diaeresis.   
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   >>> is this Vitin  cognate with French  venir ?   
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   >> No. According to Buck 1940 there's a PIE *wet(es)- which gives us:   
   >> 	Greek (w)etos  'year'   
   >> 	Sanskrit vatsa-  'calf (yearling)'   
   >> 		tri-vatsa-  'three years old'   
   >> 	Albanian vjet  'year'   
   >> and might be connected with Latin vetus 'old'.   
   >> Watkins 2000 adds English wether  (Germanic *wethruz) and Latin vitulus   
   >> 'calf, yearling'.   
      
      
   --   
   Athel -- French and British, living in Marseilles for 37 years; mainly   
   in England until 1987.   
      
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