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   Ross Clark to All   
   Hina-matsuri   
   06 Mar 25 12:34:36   
   
   From: benlizro@ihug.co.nz   
      
   Bash   
   , 17th-century Japanese poet, abandoning his "broken house on the   
   River Sumida" to go on a long journey, wrote an eight-part linked verse   
   and hung it on a post by the doorway. He quotes the first part:   
      
   Behind this door   
   Now buried in deep grass   
   A different generation will celebrate   
   The Festival of Dolls.   
      
   (Translated by Nobuyuki Yuasa, in the Penguin Classics edition of "The   
   Narrow Road to the Deep North")   
      
   Hina-matsuri! called in English "Doll Festival" or "Girls' Day",   
   3 March!   
   How did I miss that?   
   Answer: It's not on my original list.   
   Because (sez Wiki) it's an annual festival, but not a national holiday.   
      
   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinamatsuri   
      
   But back to the poem.   
   Searching for the original text, I found this remarkable page which   
   contrasts several very different translations of it (and the preceding   
   introduction).   
      
      
   kusa no to mo   
   sumikawaru yo zo   
   hina no ie   
      
      
   の戸も 住替る代ぞ ひなの家   
      
      
   Even a thatched hut   
   May change with a new owner   
   Into a doll’s house.   
      
   (Translation by Donald Keene)   
      
   https://www.bopsecrets.org/gateway/passages/basho-oku.htm   
      
   Original:  grass - 's - door - even   
               live-in/change - people - [emphatic]   
   	    doll - 's - house   
      
   I think the link to the Festival is justified by the fact that /hina/   
   refers specifically to very traditional figures, wearing traditional   
   clothing, which are displayed on that day "to pray for the happiness of   
   girls".   
      
   https://www.kyohaku.go.jp/eng/learn/home/dictio/senshoku/hina/   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

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