From: naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
   On 2025-03-26, Athel Cornish-Bowden  wrote:   
      
   > OK. At 81 (soon to be 82) I'm clearly in the Older category.   
   >   
   > Having lived outside the anglophone world for nearly 40 I haven't been   
   > subject to the more modern influences, and still speak as I always did.   
      
   So, as an old geezer, what is your personal opinion on Lindsey's   
   following assertion on the TRAP-BATH split?   
      
       Today greater diversity is allowed even among BBC newsreaders,   
     documentary narrators, etc. It's now common for such speakers to   
     have unbroadened TRAP in _bath_, _after_, _ask_, _answer_, _demand_,   
     _chant_, _sample_, etc. We might say that SSB now includes   
     un-broadened BATH words as an option.   
       This is convenient for learners aiming at a British accent, as   
     BATH-broadening can be tricky to learn. Not only is it hard to   
     explain why words did or did not broaden; there are also words   
     which have broadened more recently, such as _graph_. It's no   
     longer a high priority for learners to use the broadened forms.   
      
   Regardless, my personal observation from British media is that   
   beyond the very core vocabulary, there is considerable uncertainty   
   where to use broad A.  I've heard _transplant_ with TRAP-TRAP,   
   TRAP-PALM, and PALM-PALM vowels.   
      
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   Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
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