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   Christian Weisgerber to Aidan Kehoe   
   Re: Word of the day; "grumous".   
   01 Jul 25 19:29:18   
   
   XPost: alt.usage.english   
   From: naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
   On 2025-06-30, Aidan Kehoe  wrote:   
      
   > It’s an unremarkable borrowing from late Latin, OED describes [ad. late L.   
   > grumus little heap, hillock;]. I can’t find any convincing further   
   etymology   
   > beyond that.   
      
   De Vann in the _Etymological Dictionary of Latin_ (2008):   
      
   ------------------->   
   grūmus ‘heap of earth, hillock’ [m. o] (Acc.+)   
   Derivatives: dēgrūmare 'to level off (Enn,+).   
     PIt. *gr   
   mo- ‘heap’.   
     PIE *h₂ǵr-   
   m-o-. IE cognates: see s.v. gremium.   
      
   Lat. grumus could be connected with gremium < *grem- and OCS gramada   
   ‘heap, pile’ < *gr   
   m-. A preform *gr   
   mos may have turned into grūmus   
   phonetically: the change of *   
   m > ūm might also found in hūmānus   
   (see s.v. hom   
   ). The words that retain -   
   m- either have a following   
   front vowel (abd   
   men, n   
   men, f   
   mes, m   
   mentum. t   
   menium,    
   men, v   
   mer,   
   c   
   mis) or are due to a contraction of *o+e (p   
   mum, pr   
   mus); the   
   only exception is R   
   ma. Thus, the raising of *   
    in front of m may   
   require the additional condition of a following back vowel (no   
   exceptions) or non-front vowel (exception R   
   ma; but being a name,   
   this may have escaped the sound change). For the relevance of the   
   vowel in the next syllabe for the a vowel change, compare the change   
   *e > o /m,w _ CV[non-front] discussed by Schrijver 1991: 466-470.   
   Note also that the raising of *ē to Lat. ī is conditioned in a   
   similar way, viz. by -i- in the next syllable,   
     Bibl.: WH I: 623, EM 283, IEW 376ff. → gremium   
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   Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          naddy@mips.inka.de   
      
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