XPost: alt.usage.english   
   From: user5108@newsgrouper.org.invalid   
      
   Rich Ulrich  posted:   
      
   > On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 15:39:20 -0400, Tony Cooper   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   > >On Sun, 01 Sep 2024 18:36:10 +0200, Steve Hayes   
   > > wrote:   
   > >   
   > >>On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 22:17:55 +0100, Janet  wrote:   
   > >>   
   > >>>> Cradle boards and other child carriers used by Native Americans are   
   known by   
   > >>>> various names. In Algonquin history, the term papoose is sometimes used   
   to   
   > >>>> refer to a child carrier.?   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Given I am 43 and fairly well-read I can assert that it has basically no   
   > >>>> currency outside the US.   
   > >>>   
   > >>>   The native-American "papoose" back-board child carrier   
   > >>>was known to me in early childhood (and probably every   
   > >>>other kid enthralled by "Cowboys and Indians".   
   > >>>   
   > >>>    When we had children I rediscovered it all over again   
   > >>>thanks to Mothercare. We had a baby back carrier called a   
   > >>>papoose.   
   > >>   
   > >>So it seems that people within the US understand "papoose" as   
   > >>referring to a child, and outside the US it refers to a child holder?   
   > >   
   > >   
   > >Please...write "some people".   
   > >   
   > >If I see an (American) Indian with a baby in a carrier strapped to her   
   > >back, I would describe that as a woman with a papoose.   
   > >   
   > >However, if she removes the baby from the carrier and puts the baby on   
   > >a blanket on the ground, I would not say the baby is a "papoose".   
   >   
   > I thought that the baby would stay in the carrier when laid on   
   > the ground.  I thought they followed the baby-handling tradition   
   > of keeping them bound up.   
   >   
   > I had not ever been challenged with an Indian baby on the   
   > loose, and someone looking for a word to describe them.   
   >   
   > From the earlier discussion, I conclude that only the bound   
   > baby is a papoose.   
      
   As I understand it, the baby in the papoose (porter?) was backstrapped to the   
   parent, and for a rest it was hung on a branch or tilted against a tree trunk   
   not laid flat on the ground except to change the moss/diaper.   
      
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