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|    23 Oct 25 18:05:39    |
      From: HenHanna@NewsGrouper              >>> Thanks Hen. I have doubts that tall came by that unusual route.       I think it was always related to tower, perhaps a dialect sound/spelling       change but not semantic change.       A star or cloud might be high, but a tower was tall, because it was       constructed of (straight) sticks.       And stick has meaning of both a pole and adhesive, because it stemmed from       jabbing a stick into the ground to support a structure.       There's a bunch of words that fit the concept of stick-built structure       (steeple, teepee, stable, staple, stall, stand, staff...).       Some are from PIE *steup or *steb or *stel. I think tall came from that place,       and by 1500 was used in English, but wasn't rooted in tal or getæl but in twr       or tur.                     _________________________               I just remembered something...               WHen I was a teenager... (living in Calif.)               I just assumed that        Palos Verdes meant Green Hills        or (great views) Vista of the Green (landscape)                      So I was surprised to learn that        it meant Green Sticks.               and (shortly after) was relieved to learn that it means (tall)       Green Trees.                                          The name "Palos Verdes" comes from the Spanish phrase meaning "green       sticks" or "green trees".              It originated from the Mexican land grant called Rancho de Los Palos Verdes       granted in the early 1800s in what is now the Palos Verdes Peninsula area of       California.              The name likely referred to the lush willow trees or green timber growing in       the canyons of the region.              The phrase "Palos Verdes" was used to describe the landscape’s verdant       vegetation, although early photos show the hills to have been mostly barren.       The name has stuck and now applies broadly to the peninsula and surrounding       communities.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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