From: HenHanna@NewsGrouper   
      
   DDeden  posted:   
      
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   > HenHanna@NewsGrouper  posted:   
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   > > >>>  Thanks Hen. I have doubts that tall came by that unusual route.   
   > > I think it was always related to tower, perhaps a dialect sound/spelling   
   change but not semantic change.   
   > > A star or cloud might be high, but a tower was tall, because it was   
   constructed of (straight) sticks.   
   > > And stick has meaning of both a pole and adhesive, because it stemmed from   
   jabbing a stick into the ground to support a structure.   
   > > There's a bunch of words that fit the concept of stick-built structure   
   (steeple, teepee, stable, staple, stall, stand, staff...).   
   > > Some are from PIE *steup or *steb or *stel. I think tall came from that   
   place, and by 1500 was used in English, but wasn't rooted in tal or getæl but   
   in twr or tur.   
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   > >       I just remembered something...   
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   > >       WHen I was a teenager...  (living in Calif.)   
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   > >       I just assumed that   
   > >                             Palos  Verdes  meant  Green Hills   
   > >                       or  (great views)  Vista of the Green (landscape)   
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   > >            So I was  surprised to learn that   
   > >                 it meant  Green Sticks.   
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   > >            and  (shortly after)   was relieved to learn that it means   
   (tall) Green Trees.   
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   > > The name "Palos Verdes" comes from the Spanish phrase meaning "green   
   sticks" or "green trees".   
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   > > It originated from the Mexican land grant called Rancho de Los Palos   
   Verdes granted in the early 1800s in what is now the Palos Verdes Peninsula   
   area of California.   
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   > > The name likely referred to the lush willow trees or green timber growing   
   in the canyons of the region.   
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   > > The phrase "Palos Verdes" was used to describe the landscape’s   
   verdant vegetation, although early photos show the hills to have been mostly   
   barren. The name has stuck and now applies broadly to the peninsula and   
   surrounding communities.   
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   > Thanks Hen, that is great. I recall 'pale' being a word for a stick or post,   
   probably related to 'impale'.   
      
      
      
   Pale meaning stick --- (according to the book (The Roots of English) by   
   R.Claiborne) is related to   
                          trepalium (torture device made of 3 sticks) and to the   
   word Travel. and to Pagans   
      
   Pale (color) made me think of German  (adj.)  Blass, Bleich, and Fahl.   
                            and Nabokov's  Pale Fire...   
      
      
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   The short story "Pale Anna" by Heinrich Böll is set in post-war Germany   
   around 1950 and tells the story of a nameless ex-soldier recently returned   
   from war. The narrator is lost and disconnected, spending his days waiting   
   aimlessly in a rented room.    
   His landlady frequently talks about her son, who died at war, and shows the   
   narrator photos of the son with a girl named Anna, known as "Pale Anna," who   
   was scarred and disfigured due to an air raid during the war.   
      
   The narrator seems to have an unclear but emotional connection to "Pale Anna,"   
   whom he once knew before the war. He struggles with memories of relationships   
   and his war experiences, haunted by guilt, trauma, and loss. When he finally   
   gathers the courage    
   to visit Pale Anna's room, the story ends ambiguously, hinting at physical and   
   psychological scars, unresolved feelings, and the complex aftermath of war.   
   Themes include trauma, memory, alienation, and the difficulty of confronting   
   one’s past.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
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