XPost: alt.english.usage, alt.usage.english, nl.taal   
   From: larry@invalid.ca   
      
   On 2025-12-17 01:07, Tilde wrote:   
   > Anton Shepelev wrote:   
   >> Ruud Harmsen (uniqude punctuation amended):   
   >>   
   >>> As a non-native speaker, can you hear, and make, the   
   >>> difference between `We built this city on rock and roll' (not   
   >>> one of my favourite songs by the way; donТt know why) and the   
   >>> present tense variant `We build this city...'?   
   >>   
   >> No idea.  99% of English speech I hear is in songs, and I can't   
   >> seem to remember a song with the words `build' or `built'.   
   >> "There's a leak in this old building" irrelevantly comes to mind   
   >> by way of tangential association...   
   >>   
   >> My general impression of modern English pronunciation is that is   
   >> lazy -- dirty and slurry, not sharp and well-articulated, as one   
   >> hears movies from the thirties.  "movies from the thirties" will   
   >> soon be ambiguous, by the way...   
   >   
   > Hmm, if you're going by how English (UK or American?) is   
   > spoken in songs, that may not be the best source. Lots of   
   > tv and movies, but that may not be the best either. How   
   > about news broadcasts?   
      
   Around here, that's just as bad as anything else.   
   Our local newsies constantly mangle the language with mispronunciations,   
   wrong words, and bad grammar.   
      
   said		meant   
   ----		-----   
   surcumbed	succumbed   
   interm		interim   
   cloddy		cloudy   
   restless	relentless   
   multipeople	multiple people   
   ordinance	ordnance   
   Rocklin		Rock Glen (a town)   
   sign		Seine (the river)   
   temcher		temperature   
   accredidation	accreditation   
   hang ger	hanger   
      
   temperature will be more lower tomorrow   
   more breezier conditions   
   a sporadic chance of thunderstorms   
   there were two fires. the second cause of the fire was...   
   when they evoked the emergency act   
   very impossible   
   very fall temperatures   
   there are a risk of showers   
   testifying in an alleged case   
   a man had saw a funnel cloud   
      
   --   
   My paper airplane doesn't fly.   
   It's stationery.   
      
   --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)