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|    olcott to Tristan Wibberley    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Rejecting_expressions_of    |
|    16 Nov 25 18:52:32    |
      XPost: comp.theory       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 11/16/2025 1:11 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       > On 16/11/2025 01:29, olcott wrote:       >> G ↔ ¬Prov(⌜G⌝)       >> Directed Graph of evaluation sequence       >> 00 ↔ 01 02       >> 01 G       >> 02 ¬ 03       >> 03 Prov 04       >> 04 Gödel_Number_of 01 // cycle       >       >       > I would argue that ⊢ G := ¬Prov(⌜G⌝) is not a theorem. Before you find       > that a value of G exists (so that you may evaluate G) you must first       > find that the statement defining G is a theorem.       >              https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/goedel-incompleteness/#FirIncTheCom       It is the G sentence of the first incompleteness theorem.              ?- G = not(provable(F, G)).       G = not(provable(F, G)).              ?- unify_with_occurs_check(G, not(provable(F, G))).       false.              It has a cycle proving that it cannot be resolved       because it remains stuck in an infinite loop.              >       > --       > Tristan Wibberley       >       > The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except       > citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except that you may,       > of course, cite it academically giving credit to me, distribute it       > verbatim as part of a usenet system or its archives, and use it to       > promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation       > of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general       > superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train       > any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that       > will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.       >                     --       Copyright 2025 Olcott              My 28 year goal has been to make       "true on the basis of meaning" computable.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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