XPost: comp.theory   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 17/11/2025 23:49, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
      
   > [Mocking Olcott:] the foundational assumptions of computation   
   > are things like EAX and EIP registers of the 32 bit x86 processor.   
      
   It's an interesting philosophy. What is computation founded on but   
   formal reduction machines and—I /add/ also—systems of reasoning that may   
   be applied to them. In the latter lies philosophy under eternal doubt.   
      
      
   > You've noted in the past that x86 is over the heads of almost   
   > everyone in CS academia.   
      
   It is. It's hard. It's so big.   
      
      
   > That's also why they are wrong about halting.   
      
   Which specific property about halting or of the reasoning about halting,   
   though.   
      
      
   > They just can't follow simple machine language   
                            ^^^^^^   
   definitely the wrong word, but the clause is true otherwise.   
      
      
   > which knocks   
   > it all down.   
      
   Does he really say that? and what does "knocks it all down" mean anyway?   
      
   (a) disproves the halting theorem   
   (b) discredits popular wisdom of where to apply the theorem   
   (c) restricts interpretation of its expression to a philosophically   
   weaker meaning than is intuitively easy and apparent in literature and   
   public education   
   (d) other   
      
      
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