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   =?UTF-8?B?QW5kcsOpIEcuIElzYWFr?= to olcott   
   Re: New formal foundation for correct re   
   25 Nov 25 19:12:04   
   
   XPost: sci.math, comp.theory   
   From: agisaak@gm.invalid   
      
   On 2025-11-25 19:08, olcott wrote:   
   > On 11/25/2025 8:00 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:   
   >> On 2025-11-25 18:43, olcott wrote:   
   >>> On 11/25/2025 7:29 PM, André G. Isaak wrote:   
   >>>> On 2025-11-25 17:52, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/25/2025 6:47 PM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 2025-11-25, olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>>>> Gödel incompleteness can only exist in systems that divide   
   >>>>>>> their syntax from their semantics ...   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> And, so, just confuse syntax for semantics, and all is fixed!   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Things such as Montague Grammar are outside of your   
   >>>>> current knowledge. It is called Montague Grammar   
   >>>>> because it encodes natural language semantics as pure   
   >>>>> syntax.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> You're terribly confused here. Montague Grammar is called 'Montague   
   >>>> Grammar' because it is due to Richard Montague.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Montague Grammar presents a theory of natural language (specifically   
   >>>> English) semantics expressed in terms of logic. Formulae in his   
   >>>> system have a syntax. They also have a semantics. The two are very   
   >>>> much distinct.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Montague Grammar is the syntax of English semantics   
   >>   
   >> I can't even make sense of that. It's a *theory* of English semantics.   
   >>   
   >   
   > *Here is a concrete example*   
   > The predicate Bachelor(x) is stipulated to mean ~Married(x)   
   > where the predicate Married(x) is defined in terms of billions   
   > of other things such as all of the details of Human(x).   
      
   A concrete example of what? That's certainly not an example of 'the   
   syntax of English semantics'. That's simply a stipulation involving two   
   predicates.   
      
   André   
      
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