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|    Mikko to All    |
|    Re: Rejecting expressions of formal lang    |
|    28 Nov 25 10:40:36    |
      XPost: comp.theory       From: mikko.levanto@iki.fi              olcott kirjoitti 27.11.2025 klo 17.48:       > On 11/27/2025 2:17 AM, Mikko wrote:       >> olcott kirjoitti 26.11.2025 klo 17.20:       >>> On 11/26/2025 4:17 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>>> olcott kirjoitti 14.11.2025 klo 16.49:       >>>>> On 11/14/2025 3:09 AM, Mikko wrote:       >>>>>> On 2025-11-14 00:56:17 +0000, Tristan Wibberley said:       >>>>>>       >>>>>>> On 13/11/2025 09:05, Mikko wrote:       >>>>>>>> On 2025-11-12 14:45:34 +0000, olcott said:       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> ... formalized in Minimal       >>>>>>>>> Type Theory as LP := ~True(LP).       >>>>>>>>> (where A := B means A is defined as B).       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> https://philpapers.org/rec/OLCREO       >>>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>>> Can someone review my actual reasoning       >>>>>>>>> elaborated in the paper?       >>>>>>>>       >>>>>>>> If you want to use the term "formal language" you must prove that       >>>>>>>> there is a Turing machine that can determine whether a string is a       >>>>>>>> valid sentence of your language. If no such Turing machine exists       >>>>>>>> you have no justifiction for the use of the word "formal".       >>>>>>>       >>>>>>> It looks, at a glance, like his system has no theorems with loops in       >>>>>>> them. The system is "safe" and very small.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> It does not look small. It seems to have very many postulates,       >>>>>> perhaps       >>>>>> infinitely many. The intent is that it be complete so it probably is       >>>>>> only paraconsistent or perhaps even inconsistent.       >>>>>>       >>>>>       >>>>> My system rejects expressions of language that cannot       >>>>> possibly be resolved to a truth value because they have       >>>>> pathological self-reference(Olcott 2004)       >>>>>       >>>>> G ↔ ¬Prov(⌜G⌝)       >>>>       >>>> That can be evaluated ir sufficient defitions are given. In particular,       >>>       >>> Directed Graph of evaluation sequence       >>> 00 ↔ 01 02       >>> 01 G       >>> 02 ¬ 03       >>> 03 Prov 04       >>> 04 Gödel_Number_of 01 // cycle       >>>       >>> ?- G = not(provable(F, G)).       >>> G = not(provable(F, G)).       >>> ?- unify_with_occurs_check(G, not(provable(F, G))).       >>> false.       >>>       >>> You do not understand the deep meaning of       >>> unify_with_occurs_check()       >>       >> That you need to lie about other people indicates that you are not sure       >> whether what you say is true but you want anyway that others believe it.       >>       >> Of course I do understand the meaning of unify_with_occurs_check/2. It       >       >       > That is not what I said. I said the deep meaning              There is no deep meaning that is not a part of the meaning.              --       Mikko              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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