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   Message 261,587 of 262,912   
   olcott to Mikko   
   Re: A new foundation for correct reasoni   
   01 Dec 25 06:19:53   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/1/2025 4:31 AM, Mikko wrote:   
   > Alan Mackenzie kirjoitti 29.11.2025 klo 13.55:   
   >> [ Followup-To: set ]   
   >>   
   >> In comp.theory olcott  wrote:   
   >>> On 11/28/2025 4:54 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:   
   >>   
   >>>> In comp.theory olcott  wrote:   
   >>>>> On 11/28/2025 3:08 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:   
   >>>>>> dart200  wrote:   
   >>   
   >> [ .... ]   
   >>   
   >>>>> *Within A new foundation for correct reasoning*   
   >>   
   >>>>> (a) Every element of the body of knowledge that can   
   >>>>>       be expressed in language is entirely composed of   
   >>>>>     (1) A finite set of atomic facts   
   >>>>>     (2) Every expression of language that is semantically   
   >>>>>         entailed by (1)   
   >>>>> (b) a formal language based on Rudolf Carnap Meaning   
   >>>>>       Postulates combined with The Kurt Gödel definition   
   >>>>>       of the "theory of simple types"   
   >>>>>       https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/   
   >>>>> History_of_type_theory#G%C3%B6del_1944   
   >>>>>       Where every semantic meaning is fully encoded syntactically   
   >>>>>       as one fully integrated whole not needing model theory   
   >>   
   >>>>> We have now totally overcome Gödel Incompleteness   
   >>>>> and Tarski Undefinability for the entire body if   
   >>>>> knowledge that can be expressed in language. It   
   >>>>> is now a giant semantic tautology.   
   >>   
   >>>> You can't "overcome" these theorems, since they're not obstacles.   
   >>>> They're fundamental truths.   
   >>   
   >>> I just showed the detailed steps making both of   
   >>> them impossible in the system that I just specified.   
   >>> A counter-example is categorically impossible.   
   >>   
   >> Your construction is impossible, as proven by Gödel's Incompleteness   
   >> Theorem.   
   >   
   > Doesn't a theory that has no theorems satisfy all above stated   
   > requriements?   
   >   
      
   Every element of the body of knowledge   
   is not such a formal system.   
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott   
      
   My 28 year goal has been to make   
   "true on the basis of meaning" computable.   
      
   This required establishing a new foundation   
   for correct reasoning.   
      
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