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   olcott to Mild Shock   
   BB(googolplex ^ googolplex) ???   
   02 Dec 25 17:51:07   
   
   XPost: alt.philosophy, comp.theory   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/2/2025 5:42 PM, Mild Shock wrote:   
   > Hi,   
   >   
   > Pot Head Olcott, what are you smoking?   
   > BB(5) is only S(5)=47,176,870 steps.   
   >   
      
   What about BB(googolplex ^ googolplex) ???   
      
   > Why invoke Einstein who believe in a   
   > 10–100 million light-years wide universe?   
   >   
   > Can you explain?   
   >   
      
   Instead of beliefs (mind closing things)   
   I have sets of mutually exclusive hypothetical   
   possibilities. When I can make these categorically   
   exhaustive then certainly one of them is true.   
      
   > Bye   
   >   
   > P.S.: Turing machines that don't terminate   
   > AND extend the tape indefinitely are of   
   > course other wordly, relative to Einstein,   
   > if Einstein would have assumed that the   
   >   
   > Universe does not expand. Einstein Universe   
   > was indeed Static, non-expanding. And   
   > expanding universe theory was formed after   
   > Hubble (1929). And a turing machine could   
   >   
   > expand in lockstep with an universe, right?   
   >   
   > olcott schrieb:   
   >> On 12/2/2025 5:13 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>> On 12/2/25 3:05 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/2/2025 4:44 PM, dart200 wrote:   
   >>>>> bruh it's get even weirder when the likes of scott aaronson try to   
   >>>>> construct weird ass proofs to demonstrate when BB exactly becomes   
   >>>>> "to complex" and exceeds the bounds of "decidability" ...   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> which is just fucking absurd tbh   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Busy beaver quickly consumes more memory than atoms   
   >>>> in the universe.   
   >>>   
   >>> *known/observable* universe, not that fundamental math is concerned   
   >>> with such considerations   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Einstein proposed the possibility of a finite   
   >> yet unbounded universe. That would entail a   
   >> finite number of total atoms in the universe   
   >> and a bunch of empty space.   
   >>   
   >> I read his paper before I finished high school.   
   >> The Busy Beaver cannot possibly make any   
   >> difference and should be discarded on that basis.   
   >>   
   >> On the other hand the nature of truth itself   
   >> could make a difference whether or not life   
   >> on Earth continues to survive.   
   >>   
   >   
      
      
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   "true on the basis of meaning" computable.   
      
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