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|    olcott to Mild Shock    |
|    BB(googolplex ^ googolplex) ???    |
|    02 Dec 25 17:51:07    |
      XPost: alt.philosophy, comp.theory       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 12/2/2025 5:42 PM, Mild Shock wrote:       > Hi,       >       > Pot Head Olcott, what are you smoking?       > BB(5) is only S(5)=47,176,870 steps.       >              What about BB(googolplex ^ googolplex) ???              > Why invoke Einstein who believe in a       > 10–100 million light-years wide universe?       >       > Can you explain?       >              Instead of beliefs (mind closing things)       I have sets of mutually exclusive hypothetical       possibilities. When I can make these categorically       exhaustive then certainly one of them is true.              > Bye       >       > P.S.: Turing machines that don't terminate       > AND extend the tape indefinitely are of       > course other wordly, relative to Einstein,       > if Einstein would have assumed that the       >       > Universe does not expand. Einstein Universe       > was indeed Static, non-expanding. And       > expanding universe theory was formed after       > Hubble (1929). And a turing machine could       >       > expand in lockstep with an universe, right?       >       > olcott schrieb:       >> On 12/2/2025 5:13 PM, dart200 wrote:       >>> On 12/2/25 3:05 PM, olcott wrote:       >>>> On 12/2/2025 4:44 PM, dart200 wrote:       >>>>> bruh it's get even weirder when the likes of scott aaronson try to       >>>>> construct weird ass proofs to demonstrate when BB exactly becomes       >>>>> "to complex" and exceeds the bounds of "decidability" ...       >>>>>       >>>>> which is just fucking absurd tbh       >>>>>       >>>>       >>>> Busy beaver quickly consumes more memory than atoms       >>>> in the universe.       >>>       >>> *known/observable* universe, not that fundamental math is concerned       >>> with such considerations       >>>       >>       >> Einstein proposed the possibility of a finite       >> yet unbounded universe. That would entail a       >> finite number of total atoms in the universe       >> and a bunch of empty space.       >>       >> I read his paper before I finished high school.       >> The Busy Beaver cannot possibly make any       >> difference and should be discarded on that basis.       >>       >> On the other hand the nature of truth itself       >> could make a difference whether or not life       >> on Earth continues to survive.       >>       >                     --       Copyright 2025 Olcott              My 28 year goal has been to make       "true on the basis of meaning" computable.              This required establishing a new foundation       for correct reasoning.              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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