XPost: comp.theory, comp.ai.philosophy   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/12/2025 4:22 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/12/25 5:07 PM, polcott wrote:   
   >> On 12/12/2025 3:59 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 12/12/25 4:33 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> On 12/12/2025 3:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>> On 12/12/25 3:55 PM, polcott wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 12/12/2025 1:47 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 12/12/25 2:35 PM, polcott wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> The input to a Turing machine halt decider has always   
   >>>>>>>> been a finite string that SPECIFIES (in its encoding)   
   >>>>>>>> an exact sequence of steps. The decider only has what   
   >>>>>>>> this finite string encodes as its only basis.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> The string does not specify the steps, it specifies the algorthm   
   >>>>>>> used to generate those steps.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Counter-factual.   
   >>>>>> The string encoding directly specifies   
   >>>>>> an exact sequence of steps within the   
   >>>>>> model of computation.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Where do you get that? More of your zero-principle logic?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> If it was, how can you say your C code is a valid input? that   
   >>>>> doesn't specify what steps happen, it specifies the logic used to   
   >>>>> generate the steps.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is a string of bytes that specifies an   
   >>>> exact sequence of steps within a model of   
   >>>> computation.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> HOW??? Your input isn't that, so I guess you are just admitting you   
   >>> are just a liar.   
   >>>   
   >>> If it is, then how is C code or x86 instrutions code a valid input.   
   >>> Those are not a "exact sequence of steps" that the machine goes through.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> You must keep forgetting the details that   
   >> I have already provided.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Then remind me, because it seems you are just showing that you logic is   
   > broken.   
   >   
      
   If you can't remind me then it seems that the   
   issue is you own lack of attention span. Feel   
   free to go back through what I said. If you   
   can't even go back through what I said then it   
   is definitely your own attention span.   
      
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   reliably computable.

   
      
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