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   Julio Di Egidio to All   
   Re: Dark Points   
   18 Dec 25 18:53:24   
   
   From: julio@diegidio.name   
      
   On 18/12/2025 18:44, wm wrote:   
   > Am 18.12.2025 um 15:59 schrieb Julio Di Egidio:   
   >> On 18/12/2025 12:53, WM wrote:   
   >>> Am 18.12.2025 um 10:04 schrieb Julio Di Egidio:   
   >>>> On 17/12/2025 19:22, wm wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>>> Dark points are existing but cannot be identified by their co-   
   >>>>> ordinates. The existence of such points is clearly proven by the   
   >>>>> first and and the last point of an open interval.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> The *existence* is "clearly proven" by the *non-existence* of the first   
   >>>> and last point of an open interval... Impeccable logic as usual.   
   >>>> [RESTORED]   
   >>>   
   >>> If all points are existing, then these points are existing too.   
   >>   
   >> No, only the points that exist do exist, and you still haven't given   
   >> a single valid argument for the existence of "extraordinary" points,   
   >> not to mention an actually correct proof.   
   >   
   > There is no proof. Actual infinity is an assumption by Cantor and   
   > Hilbert: The actual infinity is for instance when we "consider the   
   > points of an interval as a totality that is completely existing"   
   > [Hilbert, 1925]. Proof is impossible, but the only alternative is   
   > potential infinity or even finitism.   
      
   Indeed, Cantor and Hilbert do not prove the existence   
   of a first and last point of an open real interval,   
   you lying moron.   
      
   There are in fact issues with standard set theory, but   
   *nothing to do with your nonsense*:   
      
      
   You were and remain a pure wast of time and bandwidth,   
   indeed possibly the main reason around here why these   
   issues have *never been discussed seriously*.   
      
   *PLONK*   
      
   Julio   
      
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