XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, comp.theory   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/22/2025 1:05 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/22/25 1:55 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 12/22/2025 12:43 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 12/22/25 1:40 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>> You are getting closer, good job !   
   >>>> Anything outside of what they CAN do   
   >>>> is outside the scope of computation.   
   >>>   
   >>> Nope.   
   >>>   
   >>> That just shows you don't understand the field.   
   >>>   
   >>> Since the problem is to determine what IS computable, limiting what   
   >>> you can ask to just computable things is nonsense.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Only those things that can be derived by applying   
   >> finite string transformations to inputs are computable.   
   >>   
   >   
   > So?   
   >   
      
   Requiring H(P) to report on the basis of UTM(P) is not   
   derivable by applying finite string transformations to   
   the input to H(P).   
      
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   Copyright 2025 Olcott

   
      
   My 28 year goal has been to make 
   
   "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
   
   reliably computable.

   
      
   This required establishing a new foundation
   
      
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