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   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: I proved the HP input is the same as   
   23 Dec 25 06:36:27   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/22/2025 9:58 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 12/22/25 10:54 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 12/22/2025 9:46 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 12/22/25 10:31 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>   
   >> function LoopIfYouSayItHalts (bool YouSayItHalts):   
   >>     if YouSayItHalts () then   
   >>         while true do {}   
   >>      else   
   >>         return false;   
   >>   
   >> Does this program Halt?   
   >>   
   >> (Your (YES or NO) answer is to be considered   
   >>   translated to Boolean as the function's input   
   >>   parameter)   
   >>   
   >> Please ONLY PROVIDE CORRECT ANSWERS!   
   >>   
   >>>   
   >>> No, I understand what you are saying, but you are just misusing words.   
   >>>   
   >> I say that any yes/no question lacking a   
   >> incorrect yes/no answer is an incorrect   
   >> polar question.   
   >>   
   >> That is true on the basis of the meaning   
   >> of its words.   
   >>   
   >>   
   >   
   > But isn't a problem of the halting problem.   
   >   
   > EVERY correct input, that is the full representation of an actual   
   > program has a yes or no answer.   
   >   
      
   Every finite string P input to halt decider H   
   has a correct yes or no answer regarding the   
   behavior that its actual input actually specifies.   
      
   All of these inputs have behavior consistent with   
   the behavior of UTM(P) except those inputs that   
   cheat and call their own decider H(P).   
      
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