XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, comp.ai.philosophy   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/30/2025 3:26 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
   > On 30/12/2025 20:35, olcott wrote:   
   >   
   >> The symbols *mean* a self-contradictory expression of language   
   >> the same sort of thing as: "this sentence is not true".   
   >   
   > Not per-Se. Formally, it depends on the full nature of the system   
   > they're in.   
   >   
      
   Sure and we could define a "black cat" as a   
   {fifteen story office building eating a sandwich}   
      
   Within the pure semantics of the actual underlying   
   meanings any expression of language that means:   
      
   {a sequence of inference steps in F from the axioms   
     of F that assert that they themselves do not exist in F}   
      
   is semantically incoherent.   
      
   --   
   Copyright 2025 Olcott

   
      
   My 28 year goal has been to make 
   
   "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
   
   reliably computable.

   
      
   This required establishing a new foundation
   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)