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|    Tristan Wibberley to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: have we been misusing incompleteness    |
|    03 Jan 26 22:11:36    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.math       From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk              On 03/01/2026 19:33, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 1/3/26 11:54 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       >> On 02/01/2026 15:35, Richard Damon wrote:       >>       >>> No, meta-system is NOT "full up" as there are an infinite number of       >>> primes to use to define new objects.       >>       >> I understood from reading it that those were occupied for variables.       >       > or new terms, after all, we have an infinite number of them.       >       > In fact, I thought he talked about assigning a number for proven       > statements in the base system, so we could refer to them.              I missed that, it looked like they were taken for all naturals just for       an all the variables. I shall read that bit again.              > This is needed       > to create the lable of "G" in the meta, so we can refer to it as we       > build the proof checker, that at the end we finally know the "value" it       > represents.                     And what number does it get? It should be expressible by the primitive       symbols of the system P and the conventional shorthands that he defines.              If he merely defines the liar paradox then his system is inconsistent,       either P, or the meta-system.              --       Tristan Wibberley              The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except       citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except that you may,       of course, cite it academically giving credit to me, distribute it       verbatim as part of a usenet system or its archives, and use it to       promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation       of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general       superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train       any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that       will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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