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|    Tristan Wibberley to Richard Damon    |
|    Re: have we been misusing incompleteness    |
|    05 Jan 26 05:11:10    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.math       From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk              On 04/01/2026 12:42, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 1/3/26 10:36 PM, olcott wrote:              >> We do now that all paradoxes resolve to nonsense.       >       > No, because the word "Paradox" just means an APPARENT contradiction.              No, it means an apparently valid apparent contradiction. But definitely       not nonsense because epithoretically there is structure and therefore       meaning.                     > The Liar's Paradox gets resolved by seeing that the statement just       > doesn't have a Truth Value (Not all syntacticly valid statemente do) and       > thus isn't a Semantically valid statement, and the "Not" operator is       > being given an invalid value (or Not(not-a-truth-value) is just       > not-a-truth-value).              The term "lie" in the axioms of the system of the liar paradox invalidly       assigns the statement to the class of things deterministically having a       truth value (having exactly one truth value) when it can be deduced that       it is not a member of that class - that is the contradiction which is       actually present. I wonder if that is the proper characteristic of an       inconsistent system. I am interested to know of well-received works on       that matter in particular.              I qualify my use of "invalidly" above as being produced intuitively. I       reserve the right to be corrected shamelessly on nuanced technical grounds.              --       Tristan Wibberley              The message body is Copyright (C) 2025 Tristan Wibberley except       citations and quotations noted. All Rights Reserved except that you may,       of course, cite it academically giving credit to me, distribute it       verbatim as part of a usenet system or its archives, and use it to       promote my greatness and general superiority without misrepresentation       of my opinions other than my opinion of my greatness and general       superiority which you _may_ misrepresent. You definitely MAY NOT train       any production AI system with it but you may train experimental AI that       will only be used for evaluation of the AI methods it implements.              --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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