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   Tristan Wibberley to Richard Damon   
   Re: have we been misusing incompleteness   
   05 Jan 26 07:53:44   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 03/01/2026 21:54, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 1/3/26 3:55 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
      
   >> I would like to see Richard's construction of the statement for which G   
   >> is shorthand. As it is mere shorthand then there is such a thing.   
   >   
   > G is the statement   
   >   
   > There does not exist a natural number (g) that satisfies the   
   > relationship ...   
   >   
   > Where the ... is the incredibly complicated formula that he derives   
   > thorough most of the paper,   
      
   Failing the actual construction, a demonstration that the statement has   
   a construction (therefore is finite *and* is a statement of the system)   
   will satisfy my immediate curiosity. I believe Gödel called this   
   "existence", formally.   
      
   >  that can't be expressed in simple ascii.   
      
   Yes, he uses Π and material implication "hook", doesn't he? There are   
   straightforward UTF-8 re-presentations that will do.   
      
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