XPost: comp.theory, sci.math   
   From: tristan.wibberley+netnews2@alumni.manchester.ac.uk   
      
   On 04/01/2026 20:45, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 1/4/26 3:32 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/4/2026 2:23 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 1/4/26 3:21 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> It is categorically impossible to derive any element   
   >>>> of the body of knowledge that can be expressed in   
   >>>> language that is not entirely comprised of some relation   
   >>>> between finite strings.   
   >>>   
   >>> So?   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> That is the conclusive proof that I am correct.   
   >   
   > No it isn't. That doesn't make Truth computable, it makes everything   
   > computable true.   
   >   
   >>   
   >>> The problem is we want to derive things that aren't yet in the body   
   >>> of knowledge.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> If you want to know the name of your wife's   
   >> mother and you have not met your wife yet   
   >> then the answer is not available by any means.\   
   >   
   > So? She still has a name.   
      
   Is this how the church banned divorce and also remarriage after a   
   bereavement?   
      
   They'd made an AI knowledge-base and used the same axiom that you just did?   
      
   Henry VIII made a more sophisticated one and the rest is history. It was   
   a system that attested reality and was written in prolog: protestant.   
      
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