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|    olcott to Richard Damon    |
|    =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Closing_the_gap_of_G=C3=    |
|    15 Jan 26 17:43:51    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, sci.lang       XPost: comp.ai.philosophy       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 1/15/2026 5:50 AM, Richard Damon wrote:       > On 1/15/26 12:27 AM, olcott wrote:       >> On 1/14/2026 9:44 PM, Richard Damon wrote:       >>> On 1/14/26 5:11 PM, olcott wrote:       >>>> On 1/14/2026 3:36 PM, olcott wrote:       >>>>> Interpreting incompleteness as a gap between mathematical truth and       >>>>> proof depends on truth-conditional semantics; once this is replaced       >>>>> by proof-theoretic semantics a framework not yet sufficiently       >>>>> developed at the time of Gödel’s proof the notion of such a gap       >>>>> becomes unfounded.       >>>>>       >>>>       >>>> Gödel and Turing incompleteness results expose the limits of       >>>> denotational and truth-conditional semantics, not limits of proof or       >>>> computation per se. When meaning is grounded operationally or proof-       >>>> theoretically, the problematic self-referential constructions are       >>>> rejected as semantically unfounded rather than treated as       >>>> determinate but unknowable facts.       >>>>       >>>       >>> The problem is that "Computation" relys on truth-conditional       >>> semantics, as the behavior of a program *IS* what it actually does,       >>> not what you can generically prove about it.       >>>       >>       >> Proof in terms of the behavior of DD simulated by HHH.       >       > Since your HHH doesn't correctly simulate DD,       Proof-theoretic semantics proves that I have been       correct all along.              --       Copyright 2026 Olcott |
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