home bbs files messages ]

Forums before death by AOL, social media and spammers... "We can't have nice things"

   sci.logic      Logic -- math, philosophy & computationa      262,912 messages   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]

   Message 262,545 of 262,912   
   olcott to Richard Damon   
   =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_Closing_the_gap_of_G=C3=   
   15 Jan 26 17:45:29   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, sci.lang   
   XPost: comp.ai.philosophy   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/15/2026 5:50 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 1/15/26 12:30 AM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/14/2026 9:44 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 1/14/26 4:36 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> Interpreting incompleteness as a gap between mathematical truth and   
   >>>> proof depends on truth-conditional semantics; once this is replaced   
   >>>> by proof-theoretic semantics a framework not yet sufficiently   
   >>>> developed at the time of Gödel’s proof the notion of such a gap   
   >>>> becomes unfounded.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> But that isn't what Incompleteness is about, so you are just showing   
   >>> your ignorance of the meaning of words.   
   >>>   
   >>> You can't just "change" the meaning of truth in a system.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Yet that is what happens when you replace the foundational basis   
   >> from truth-conditional semantics to proof-theoretic semantics.   
   >   
   > Which isn't allowed.   
   >   
   > You don't seem to understand that "changing the basis" means you have a   
   > different system.   
   >   
      
   Yes just like you always said that I needed.   
   A formal system such that   
   "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"   
   is always reliably computable.   
      
      
   --   
   Copyright 2026 Olcott

              My 28 year goal has been to make
       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
       reliably computable.

              This required establishing a new foundation
              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)   

[   << oldest   |   < older   |   list   |   newer >   |   newest >>   ]


(c) 1994,  bbs@darkrealms.ca