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   olcott to Tristan Wibberley   
   Re: Back in 2020 I proved that Wittgenst   
   21 Jan 26 21:24:33   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, comp.ai.philosophy   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/21/2026 2:29 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
   > On 21/01/2026 20:14, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/21/2026 1:02 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
   >>> On 21/01/2026 15:14, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> An BaseFact is an expression X of (natural or formal)   
   >>>> language L that has been assigned the semantic property   
   >>>> of True. (Similar to a math Axiom).   
   >>>   
   >>> Do you mean "statement" or really mean "expression" - understanding that   
   >>> the term "expression" (of a language) includes things like "ngs lik"   
   >>> from this statement.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> It turns out that I must have remembered this from:   
   >>   
   >> *Russell’s Logical Atomism*   
   >>    the claim that the world consists of a plurality of   
   >>    independently existing things exhibiting qualities   
   >>    and standing in relations. According to logical   
   >>    atomism, all truths are ultimately dependent upon   
   >>    a layer of atomic facts, which consist either of a   
   >>    simple particular exhibiting a quality, or multiple   
   >>    simple particulars standing in a relation.   
   >>    https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/logical-atomism/   
   >>   
   >> I bought his book a few decades ago.   
   >>   
   >   
   > According to that link, Russel's 'expression' is more restrictive that   
   > Haskell Curry's, Curry considered "ngs lik" to be an expression while   
   > Russel is there said to consider "the King of France" to be an   
   > expression, I suppose giving the two noun phrases as the only two   
   > examples, as they do, is intended to exclude the supposition that "ngs   
   > lik" is an expression, which Curry allows. I wonder whether Curry   
   > misunderstood or adopted/formed a second school.   
   >   
      
   If you are only going to play head games you will be ignored.   
   It turns out the wellfounded proof theoretic semantics is the   
   key frame-of-reference that proves I have been correct about   
   all of these things all along.   
      
   When we anchor Wittgenstein this way he too was right all along   
      
     'True in Russell's system' means, as was   
      said: proved in Russell's system; and   
      'false in Russell's system' means: the   
      opposite has been proved in Russell's system   
      https://www.liarparadox.org/Wittgenstein.pdf   
      
   is exactly wellfounded proof theoretic semantics   
      
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       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"
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