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   olcott to Tristan Wibberley   
   =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_G=C3=B6del=27s_G_has_nev   
   22 Jan 26 18:29:57   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, comp.ai.philosophy   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/22/2026 6:23 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
   > On 20/01/2026 23:08, Tristan Wibberley wrote:   
   >> On 18/01/2026 23:41, olcott wrote:   
   >>   
   >>> I already just said that the proof and refutation of   
   >>> Goldbach are outside the scope of PA axioms.   
   >>   
   >> So Richard is right that you need a truth value for not being covered:   
   >>   
   >> True(S, Goldbach) = OutOfScope   
   >   
   >   
   > Oh ho! but is Goldbach definable as a shortcode for a statement of the   
   > goldbach conjecture in PA? If there's no such statement then it's out of   
   > scope without a truth value for that.   
   >   
      
   Within proof theoretic semantics the lack   
   of a finite proof entails ungrounded thus   
   non-well-founded. My system works over the   
   entire body of knowledge that can be   
   expressed in language. Knowledge excludes   
   unknowns as outside of its domain.   
      
   ∀x ∈ PA ((True(PA, x)  ≡ (PA ⊢ x))   
   ∀x ∈ PA ((False(PA, x) ≡ (PA ⊢ ~x))   
   ∀x ∈ PA (~WellFounded(PA, x) ≡ (~True(PA, x) ∧ (~False(PA, x))   
      
   > In addition to equality, it requires negation, either forall or exists,   
   > either conjunction or disjunction... but my memory says not all of those   
   > are available in PA in sufficient generality! Oh if only my brain worked   
   > as well as it once did I could work this through in a sitting, instead I   
   > get mentally disorganised.   
   >   
      
      
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