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|    olcott to Tristan Wibberley    |
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|    22 Jan 26 19:38:40    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, comp.ai.philosophy       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 1/22/2026 7:15 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       > On 23/01/2026 00:29, olcott wrote:       >> On 1/22/2026 6:23 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       >>> On 20/01/2026 23:08, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       >>>> On 18/01/2026 23:41, olcott wrote:       >>>>       >>>>> I already just said that the proof and refutation of       >>>>> Goldbach are outside the scope of PA axioms.       >>>>       >>>> So Richard is right that you need a truth value for not being covered:       >>>>       >>>> True(S, Goldbach) = OutOfScope       >>>       >>>       >>> Oh ho! but is Goldbach definable as a shortcode for a statement of the       >>> goldbach conjecture in PA? If there's no such statement then it's out of       >>> scope without a truth value for that.       >>>       >>       >> Within proof theoretic semantics the lack       >> of a finite proof entails ungrounded thus       >> non-well-founded. My system works over the       >> entire body of knowledge that can be       >> expressed in language. Knowledge excludes       >> unknowns as outside of its domain.       >       > Because, even if a statement can be expressed, whether it is true or       > false is determinable by an axiom extension (among other kinds of       > extension). So it cannot be said that all systems must assign some kind       > of truth value /including/ that its truth is unknown.       >              When the axioms of this system are exactly Russell's       set of "basic facts" then the system anchored in proof       theoretic semantics and a notion of TRUE can always       correctly determine       "true on the basis of meaning expressed in language"              --       Copyright 2026 Olcott |
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