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   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: Well-founded proof theoretic semanti   
   24 Jan 26 11:56:42   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, sci.math.symbolic   
   XPost: comp.lang.prolog   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 1/24/2026 11:17 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 1/22/26 7:15 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> On 1/22/2026 6:09 PM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   >>> On 1/22/26 12:40 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >>>> Well-founded proof theoretic semantics where True(L, x)   
   >>>> is anchored in provability from the axioms of formal   
   >>>> system L seems to eliminate the undecidability that   
   >>>> model theoretic semantics encounters when truth is   
   >>>> measured from outside of the formal system in a separate   
   >>>> model.   
   >>>   
   >>> But GOdel's proof wasn't based on a truth outside the system.   
   >>>   
   >>> The proof was based outside the system,   
   >> Hence requiring provability in the system has   
   >> always been totally wrong-headed.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Nope, when in the system, that is all you know.   
   >   
      
   So you think that inside and outside are the same thing?   
      
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