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   olcott to Richard Damon   
   Re: Halting Problem and Proof Theoretic    
   02 Feb 26 07:49:21   
   
   XPost: comp.theory, sci.math, comp.theory   
   XPost: comp.lang.prolog, comp.software-eng   
   From: polcott333@gmail.com   
      
   On 2/2/2026 5:48 AM, Richard Damon wrote:   
   > On 2/1/26 10:32 PM, olcott wrote:   
   >> int DD()   
   >> {   
   >>   int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);   
   >>   if (Halt_Status)   
   >>   HERE: goto HERE;   
   >>   return Halt_Status;   
   >> }   
   >>   
   >> HHH simulates DD step-by-step according to the   
   >> semantics of the C programming language.   
   >   
   > IT CAN'T, as it isn't given the C code of DD.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> HHH correctly determines that DD does not have   
   >> a well-founded justification tree within Proof   
   >> theoretic semantics.   
   >   
   > Which is a non-sense sentence as "Hating" isn't based on a justification   
   > tree.   
   >   
   > You are just trying to sound impressive by using fancy words which you   
   > just don't know what they mean,   
   >   
   > It seems you don't understand the very basics of programming or   
   > computation theory.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> When HHH is construed as a proof theoretic halting   
   >> prover HHH detects the pathological self-reference   
   >> of its input and rejects DD as non-well-founded on   
   >> this basis.   
   >   
   > But it isn't one, as it is just wrong.   
   >   
   > Your problem is you don't understand that thing are what they are.   
   >   
   > You are just proving how STUPID and IGNORANT you are, and that you are   
   > just a PATHOLOGICAL LIAR that just doesn't care what truth is, because,   
   > as a concept, it it just foreign to you.   
   >   
   >>   
   >> % This sentence is not true.   
   >> ?- LP = not(true(LP)).   
   >> LP = not(true(LP)).   
   >> ?- unify_with_occurs_check(LP, not(true(LP))).   
   >> false.   
   >>   
   >> The Liar Paradox is formally rejected by Prolog   
   >> occurs_check for this same reason.   
   >>   
   >> occurs_check correctly determines that LP does not   
   >> have a well-founded justification tree within Proof   
   >> theoretic semantics   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> All five LLM systems agree with the above   
   >> this one is the most succinct agreement:   
   >>   
   >> *Halting Problem and Proof Theoretic Semantics*   
   >> https://philpapers.org/archive/OLCHPA.pdf   
   >>   
   >> https://philpapers.org/rec/OLCHPA   
   >>   
   >> https://www.researchgate.net/   
   >> publication/400341134_Halting_Problem_and_Proof_Theoretic_Semantics   
   >>   
   >   
      
   The above paper is one of 8 that explain   
   exactly how I am correct.   
      
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