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|    olcott to Tristan Wibberley    |
|    Re: on ignoring the undecidable --- PLO    |
|    09 Feb 26 11:42:05    |
      XPost: comp.theory, sci.math       From: polcott333@gmail.com              On 2/9/2026 10:43 AM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:       > On 09/02/2026 14:57, Mikko wrote:       >> Logic is not paralyzed. Separating semantics from inference rules       >> ensures that semantic problems don't affect the study of proofs       >> and provability.       >       > Would you agree that inference rules are a formalisation of some semantics.       >       > a) in a sense       > b) yes, properly       >       > ?       >       > And then a syntactical system is one in which there remains no       > unformalised semantics (or, indeed, pragmatics), not even identification       > of thought objects.       >              By the theory of simple types I mean the doctrine which says that the       objects of thought (or, in another interpretation, the symbolic       expressions) are divided into types, namely: individuals, properties of       individuals, relations between individuals, properties of such       relations, etc. (with a similar hierarchy for extensions), and that       sentences of the form: " a has the property φ ", " b bears the relation       R to c ", etc. are meaningless, if a, b, c, R, φ are not of types       fitting together. Mixed types (such as classes containing individuals       and classes as elements) and therefore also transfinite types (such as       the class of all classes of finite types) are excluded. That the theory       of simple types suffices for avoiding also the epistemological paradoxes       is shown by a closer analysis of these. (Cf. Ramsey 1926 and Tarski       1935, p. 399)."              Semantics can be expressed entirely syntactically.       The most formal way to say this is that when all       expressions of language derive all of their semantic       meaning from other expressions of language, then all       knowledge that can be expressed in language is merely       relations between finite strings.              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_type_theory#G%C3%B6del_1944                     --       Copyright 2026 Olcott |
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