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|    Thomas Heger to All    |
|    Re: The problem of simultaneity    |
|    15 Oct 25 09:54:47    |
      From: ttt_heg@web.de              Am Dienstag000014, 14.10.2025 um 12:11 schrieb Mikko:       > On 2025-10-13 05:59:58 +0000, Thomas Heger said:       >       >> Am Samstag000011, 11.10.2025 um 11:28 schrieb Richard Hachel:       >>> Le 11/10/2025 à 09:13, Thomas Heger a écrit :       >>>       >>>> Einstein's relativity theory isn't relativistic at all.       >>>>       >>>> TH       >>>       >>> Yes.       >>> It's relativistic.       >>> But the problem is that it confuses everything, and it leads to       >>> nonsense if you take it a step too far.       >>> For example, Albert Einstein, who is considered a god, was unable to       >>> understand the difference between the relativity of chronotropy       >>> and the relativity of durations, which is what Dr. Richard Hachel,       >>> who is considered a crank, does.       >>> It's the history of humanity in real life.       >>>       >>> Let's take Langevin's traveler as an example; Hachel is very precise       >>> about the terms. On the traveler's return, for example, his       >>> chronotropy beats slower than that of the terrestrial traveler (as on       >>> the outward journey), but his watch nevertheless runs faster.       >>       >>       >> I would use other words, but actually had the same impression of       >> Einstein's text.       >>       >> I meant that time is always an interval, while Einstein thought about       >> time as linear and countable.       >>       >> But usually we use some starting point as reference, while often that       >> isn't mentioned.       >>       >> What makes no sense, that are terms like 'bestimmte Ära' (certain       >> era), because eras are not numbered.       >>       >> Also this concept of 'linear time' (embedded in 'big-bang theory') is       >> most likely wrong.       >>       >> Einstein also used 'external time', which is similar to Newtons       >> 'absolute time', while didn't use Poincare's 'local time'.       >>       >> So, in my opinion SRT isn't 'relativistic' enough.       >       > The problem with the word "time" (and many other words) is that in       > Common Language it is used for many different meanings. When clearer       > expression is desired different words should be used for different       > meanings. Often, and in particular for discussing physics, it is       > best to restrict the meaning of "time" when used as a nout to       > expressions that can be used as an answer to the questions that ask       > when someting happens, i.e., values of a time coordinate of an event.       > The word "duration" can be used for difference of two times. But even       > in physics discussions it is usually assumed that the participants can       > understand from context which of the multiple meanings of "time" is       > used.       >              To treat time as a coordinate is a VERY bad idea!                     This is so, because with 'coordinates' we usually mean positions in space.              But time does not define a position in space.              Actually time values do not define 'positions' in time , neither.              The problem with your assumption is, that you would need to define a       zero point in time and can't do that.              Actually the so called 'big-bang-theory' was meant to provide just that,       but is most likely wrong.              Not only did it come from a catholic priest, who wanted to make 1. book       of Genesis 'scientific', but it's also quite illogic.              Therefore, the (real) universe is not expanding from a certain       beginning, but a visible subset is.              The 'real universe' is mainly invisible, hence we cannot know, whether       or not it had a beginning.              At leat we cannot measure the beginning and that would make the use of       such a startig point in time next to impossible.                     TH              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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