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|    Thomas Heger to All    |
|    Re: The problem of simultaneity    |
|    16 Oct 25 06:39:43    |
      From: ttt_heg@web.de              Am Mittwoch000015, 15.10.2025 um 11:32 schrieb Mikko:       > On 2025-10-15 07:54:47 +0000, Thomas Heger said:       >       >> Am Dienstag000014, 14.10.2025 um 12:11 schrieb Mikko:       >>> On 2025-10-13 05:59:58 +0000, Thomas Heger said:       >>>       >>>> Am Samstag000011, 11.10.2025 um 11:28 schrieb Richard Hachel:       >>>>> Le 11/10/2025 à 09:13, Thomas Heger a écrit :       >>>>>       >>>>>> Einstein's relativity theory isn't relativistic at all.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> TH       >>>>>       >>>>> Yes.       >>>>> It's relativistic.       >>>>> But the problem is that it confuses everything, and it leads to       >>>>> nonsense if you take it a step too far.       >>>>> For example, Albert Einstein, who is considered a god, was unable       >>>>> to understand the difference between the relativity of chronotropy       >>>>> and the relativity of durations, which is what Dr. Richard Hachel,       >>>>> who is considered a crank, does.       >>>>> It's the history of humanity in real life.       >>>>>       >>>>> Let's take Langevin's traveler as an example; Hachel is very       >>>>> precise about the terms. On the traveler's return, for example, his       >>>>> chronotropy beats slower than that of the terrestrial traveler (as       >>>>> on the outward journey), but his watch nevertheless runs faster.       >>>>       >>>>       >>>> I would use other words, but actually had the same impression of       >>>> Einstein's text.       >>>>       >>>> I meant that time is always an interval, while Einstein thought       >>>> about time as linear and countable.       >>>>       >>>> But usually we use some starting point as reference, while often       >>>> that isn't mentioned.       >>>>       >>>> What makes no sense, that are terms like 'bestimmte Ära' (certain       >>>> era), because eras are not numbered.       >>>>       >>>> Also this concept of 'linear time' (embedded in 'big-bang theory')       >>>> is most likely wrong.       >>>>       >>>> Einstein also used 'external time', which is similar to Newtons       >>>> 'absolute time', while didn't use Poincare's 'local time'.       >>>>       >>>> So, in my opinion SRT isn't 'relativistic' enough.       >>>       >>> The problem with the word "time" (and many other words) is that in       >>> Common Language it is used for many different meanings. When clearer       >>> expression is desired different words should be used for different       >>> meanings. Often, and in particular for discussing physics, it is       >>> best to restrict the meaning of "time" when used as a nout to       >>> expressions that can be used as an answer to the questions that ask       >>> when someting happens, i.e., values of a time coordinate of an event.       >>> The word "duration" can be used for difference of two times. But even       >>> in physics discussions it is usually assumed that the participants can       >>> understand from context which of the multiple meanings of "time" is       >>> used.       >>       >> To treat time as a coordinate is a VERY bad idea!       >>       >> This is so, because with 'coordinates' we usually mean positions in       >> space.       >       > By "coordinates" we usually mean a tuple of (usually continuous) functions       > from elements of a some spece (the physical space or spacetime or some       > abstract mathematical space) or a part of one with the property that       > the tuple of the values of those functions for one point identifies the       > point.       >              Actually we mean the entries of a tupel with 'coordinates'.              The tupels themselves are mostly vectors.                     It is also not a very good idea to confuse mathematical and physical spaces.              With 'physical space' we usually adress 'the universe' or something similar.              But we could make a vector out of a coordinate very easily, if we create       a tupel, that has only one non-zero entry.              This is allowed in physical space only for three coordinates, while time       has only one entry.              Since we have only one time position available (in a four-tupel), we       cannot treat time as a coordinate of physical space (because three       positions of a four-tupel are already occupied by the three real axes of       space).              To solve this issue and to allow time to be threedimensional, too, I had       the suggestion to use bi-quaternions.              Then time is locally imaginary and remains imaginary, even if the entire       system is rotated.              Then 'space' would become 'time dependent' and matter filling that       space, too.              TH              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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