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   Message 224,031 of 225,861   
   J. J. Lodder to Ross Finlayson   
   Re: TOE   
   23 Oct 25 22:49:43   
   
   XPost: sci.math   
   From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
      
   Ross Finlayson  wrote:   
      
   > On 10/23/2025 02:13 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > > Ross Finlayson  wrote:   
   > >   
   > >> On 10/22/2025 02:18 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > >>> Ross Finlayson  wrote:   
   > >>>   
   > >>>> On 10/20/2025 02:15 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > >>>>> Ross Finlayson  wrote:   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> On 10/19/2025 01:07 PM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> Ross Finlayson  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> On 10/19/2025 06:49 AM, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>> The Starmaker  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> 'The Theory of Everything is an overarching hypothetical framework   
   > >>>>>>>>>> that would explain the physics of the entire universe in a single   
   > >>>>>>>>>> equation. But unifying theories that define the large-scale   
   > >>>>>>>>>> cosmological structure of the universe with those that describe   
   the   
   > >>>>>>>>>> minuscule quantum world of the subatomic particles has been a   
   > >>>>>>>>>> challenge for over a century.'   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> The key word here is... unifying.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> So, if energy is mass, and mass is energy...how come it's not   
   > >>>>>>>>>> called energymass? or massenergy??   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> I mean, if you want to  unifying..then EM, not e=m.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> or energymass.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Lets get this TOE started. Get it right!   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> explain the physics of the entire universe in a single equation.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>> Is TOE a single equation of  the entire universe?   
   > >>>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>>       or an abbreviation?   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> So you misunderstood that too.   
   > >>>>>>>>> The problem is not putting everything in a single equation.   
   > >>>>>>>>> That is trivial, the 'Great Feynman Equation' for example will do.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> The point is having no free parameters,   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> Jan   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> That's pragmatic and begins to attain to a theory,   
   > >>>>>>>> yet eventually a "theory of everything" is actually   
   > >>>>>>>> involving also the mathematics and the logic and   
   > >>>>>>>> the philosophy and even the metaphysics of it all.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> I.e., a theory of everything is about the parameters that are free.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> It is you who is thoroughly confused.   
   > >>>>>>> If there are free parameters in it it isn't the TOE,   
   > >>>>>>> by definition, (because it leaves things to be explained)   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Jan   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> No, that's just a closed form and physics is an open system.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> A non-sequitur, whether true or not.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>> I sort of helped explain this to one of the bots and   
   > >>>>>> it really agrees,   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Now that is a really conclusive argument,   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Jan   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> [snip more misunderstandings about what the TOE is]   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Here's a riddle of induction as Goodman might put it,   
   > >>>> yours.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> If induction could do it we would have had it long ago,   
   > >>>   
   > >>> Jan   
   > >>>   
   > >>   
   > >   
   > >> Induction can't complete itself.   
   > >   
   > > And less than that.   
   > > If induction could do it we would have had it long ago,   
   > >   
   > > Jan   
   > >   
   >   
   > Of course, induction is perfectly regular,   
   > when the objects of mathematics like a   
   > continuous domain exist, thus to be able   
   > to use something like the geometric series   
   > to make something like the integral calculus   
   > its fundamental theorems more strongly rigorous.   
   >   
   > It's more like you lack the super-classical thinking   
   > and the experience of the exercise of post-paradox reasoning,   
   > instead that you just ride the coat-tails and clamber upon   
   > your giants, then Emperor's new clothes yourself all high.   
   >   
   > Not to mention all your insane outputs of the invincibly-ignorant   
   > yet so wrong the howler troll variety, those also reflecting on you.   
      
   I don't output verbiage to hide that I have nothing to say,   
   like you do all the time,   
      
   Jan   
      
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