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|    Paul.B.Andersen to All    |
|    Re: A House of Dynamite (2025)    |
|    30 Oct 25 22:01:54    |
      XPost: rec.arts.tv, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh       From: relativity@paulba.no              Den 29.10.2025 05:09, skrev The Starmaker:       >       > Michelson’s analysis of errors in his 1881/87       > experiments of the two swimmers contest;              You obviously meant Reinhard A. Schumacher's analysis of errors in       Michelson's 1887 MMX experiment.              Michelson never made an experiment with two swimmers.              >       > https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1742-6596/2197/1/012012/pdf              The idea of using two swimmers to analyse the MMX is quite stupid.              Schumacher claims that he with this analogy can prove that       if light were a wave in the ether as assumed by Michelson,       then a Michelson interferometer would not be able to measure       the speed of the ether relative to the interferometer.              This is a ridiculous claim, and I will not bother to explain why.              However, Schumacher is correct when he claims that there is       an error in Michelson's derivations, so let's go through them.              (I am sure that this error is well known.)              https://paulba.no/paper/Michelson_1887.pdf              In the following is "c" the speed of light relative to the ether,       and "v" is the speed of the ether relative to the interferometer.       "D" is length of the interferometer arms.              Analysis of the interferometer arm which is parallel to       the velocity of the ether:       =======================================================              In the rest frame of the interferometer, the speed of the light       going with the speed of the ether is (c+v) while the speed       of the light going in the opposite direction is (c-v).              So the time for the light to go forth and back the arm is:        t₁ = D/(c+v) + D/(c+v) = 2D⋅c/(c²−v²)       The distance the light have travelled through the ether is:        D₁ = t₁⋅c = 2D/(1-v²/c²) ≈ 2D⋅(1+v²/c²) (v/c << 1)              This is in accordance with Michelson's calculation.              Analysis of the interferometer arm which is transverse to       the velocity of the ether:       =======================================================              The correct calculation:       -----------------------        .        / \        /θ|θ\        / | \        ct/ | \ct        / |D \        / | \        /______| _____\        vt vt               (vt)² + D² = (ct)² => t = D/√(c²−v²)              So the time for the light to go forth and back the arm is:        t₂ = 2D/√(c²−v²)       The distance the light has travelled through the ether is:        D₂ = t₂⋅c = 2D/√(1−v²/c²) ≈ 2D/(1-v²/2c²) ≈        D⋅(1+v²/2c²)              Note: sin θ = v/c              Michelson's calculation:       ------------------------        .        / \        /θ|θ\        / | \        D'/ | \D'        / |D \        / | \        /______| _____\        vt vt              Michelson (wrongly) consider it as evident that       the angle θ is the classical aberration.       (Aberration according to the Galilean transform.)       That is, tan θ = v/c              So vt/D = v/c => vt = D⋅v/c              D'² = D² + (vt)² = D² + D²⋅v²/c² = D²(1+v²/c²)       D' = D⋅√(1+v²/c²)              The distance the light has travelled through the ether is:        D₂ = 2D' = 2D⋅√(1+v²/c²) ≈ 2D⋅(1+v²/2c²)              Note that this approximation of the wrong D₂ is equal       to the approximation of the correct D₂.              So Michelson's calculation that (D₁-D₂) ≈ D⋅v²/c²       remains correct.              Michelson's error has no consequence for the validity of the MMX.              --       Paul              https://paulba.no/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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