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   >> Dingle was wrong. Historical fact!   
   >   
   > I don't see any reason for such a statement.   
   >   
   > If you dislike 'Science at the crossroads' you could certainly discuss   
   > this topic and can eventually disprove a few of his statements   
   > (supposed you find people willing to discuss that topic with you).   
   > But shouting 'Dingle was wrong!' is like spitting into the wwind.   
   Dingle wasn't as smart as you seem to believe.   
   His misunderstandings of SR were rather naive, and easy   
   to spot for anyone who understands SR.   
      
   But I won't bother to explain them to you, you can look up   
   the Dingle - Einstein discussion and see for yourself.   
      
   That Dingle was wrong is a historical fact.   
      
   >>   
   >>> That's why I actually think, that professional physics today is a   
   >>> total farce.   
      
   >> Your opinion can't change the _fact_:   
   >> SR is a logically consistent theory.   
      
   >   
   > Sure, but I had never argued about SRT per se.   
   >   
   > 'Relativity' is actually a very simple and totally undisputable concept,   
   > which hardly anybody wants to reject.   
   >   
   > What people eventually dislaike that are certain versions of SRT, like   
   > e.g. that of Einstein from 1905.   
   >   
   > (Personally I prefer Minkowski and Poincaré.)   
      
   Here we go again!   
      
   There is but one version of SR.   
      
   Einstein's 1905 formulation of the theory can be summed up   
   in the Lorentz transform [LT}:   
     t' = γ(t - v⋅x/c²)   
     x' = γ(x - v⋅t)   
     y' = y   
     z' = z   
      
   Minkowski's reformulation is the metric:   
     dτ² = dt² − dx² − dy² − dz²   
      
   You can derive the metric from the LT,   
   and you can derive the LT from the metric.   
      
   Any prediction of SR can be derived equal well from   
   the LT or the metric.   
      
   There are two formulations of the one and only   
   Special Theory of Relativity.   
      
   So when you, Thomas Heger, wrote:   
   "I actually assume, that 'On the electrodynamics of moving bodies'   
     was meant as such a means, which intentionally tried to divert   
     science from their supposed course.   
     I think so, because that particular article contains an enormous   
     amount of errors of all sorts.   
     Some of them are actually comically stupid."   
      
   You claimed that the Special Theory of Relativity was nonsense.   
      
   That's why I would like you to respond to the part you by   
   some reason keep snipping:   
      
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   It is a fact that SR is a logically consistent theory.   
      
   But the predictions of a logically consistent theory   
   do not have to be in accordance with measurements.   
   Only real experiments can show that.   
      
   Some of the experiments testing SR:   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Fizeau_by_Michelson.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Michelson_1887.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Kennedy_Thorndike.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Ives_Stilwell.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Ives_Stilwell_II.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Babcock_Bergman.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Frisch_Smith.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Alvager_et_al.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Beckmann_Mandics.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Filippas_Fox.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Brecher.pdf   
   https://paulba.no/paper/Brillet_Hall.pdf   
      
   Newtonian Mechanics (NM) and SR are both logically consistent   
   theories.   
   All the experiments above confirm SR, none falsify SR.   
   Most of the experiments above falsify NM.   
   (It takes but one experiment to falsify a theory.)   
      
   Do you understand this, or will you claim that all physicists   
   are idiots, and that all the experimental physicist who performed   
   the experiments are frauds who have faked their results?   
      
      
      
   --   
   Paul   
      
   https://paulba.no/   
      
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