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   The Starmaker to relativity@paulba.no   
   Re: No amount of experimentation can eve   
   16 Nov 25 09:43:57   
   
   XPost: sci.math   
   From: starmaker@ix.netcom.com   
      
   On Sun, 16 Nov 2025 14:27:27 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Den 15.11.2025 21:25, skrev Maciej Wo?niak:   
   >> On 11/15/2025 9:09 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:   
   >>> Den 15.11.2025 16:05, skrev Maciej Wo?niak:   
   >>>> On 11/15/2025 3:27 PM, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why are you responding to a post when you address nothing in it?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Try again?   
   >>>>> Or are you admitting that the following is beyond your abilities?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> -------   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In SR/GR "proper acceleration" is the acceleration measured   
   >>>>> in the rest frame (Momentarily co-moving inertial frame).   
   >>>>> So there is no velocity to derivate, and the proper acceleration >   
   >>>>> is as explained below.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> According to GR the proper acceleration of the satellite   
   >>>>> is a = F/m where m is the mass of the satellite and F is the force   
   >>>>> acting on it. Since no force is acting on an object in free-fall,   
   >>>>> the proper acceleration of the satellite is zero.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> According to GR the proper acceleration of an object on the ground   
   >>>>> is 9.81 m/sē upwards.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In GR, the acceleration is what an accelerometer shows.   
   >>>>> An accelerometer in free-fall  will show zero acceleration,   
   >>>>> an accelerometer on the ground will show 9.81 m/sē acceleration   
   >>>>> upwards.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Why do you think accelerometers show what GR says,   
   >>>>> and not what your common sense say it should show?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Could it be that GR is more in accordance with   
   >>>>> the laws of nature than is your prejudiced common sense?   
   >>>   
   >>> I see.   
   >>> This was way beyond your mental abilities,   
   >>> so all you can do is to babble nonsense like this:   
   >   
   >>>> Sure, and in a theory of sharks eating grass   
   >>>> a shark is what eats grass.   
   >   
   >> As a mumbling idiot postulated that   
   >> sharks must eat grass, because that's   
   >> what "Laws of Nature" are - no wonder that   
   >> a sheep became a "shark". Nothing   
   >> complicated in that, sorry, trash.   
   >>   
   >   
   >We let these wise words about the "Laws of Nature" end the sub thread.   
      
   Laws of Nature do not come from Nature..they are imaginary laws   
   invented by man imaginary laws.   
      
   Relativity...is just a theory. It has NOTHING to do with the real   
   physical world.   
      
   All of the elements and components of the theory of relativity are   
   just imaginary...it has no coneection to to real world of physics..   
   even PHYSICS is not real.   
      
   GPS has nothing to do with Relativity.   
      
   E=Mc^2 has NOTHING to do with Relativity!   
      
   Let me give you another example using Math (another imaginary   
   language)...   
   "negative mass"...   
   comes from Einstein's theory of Relativity, a componenet, but, but..   
   it exist in the mathematics imaginary world but has no existence in   
   the real physical world.   
      
   Relativity...is JUST a theory...just    a theory.   
      
   Gravity...is JUST a theory.   
      
      
   When are you girls going to wake up????   
      
      
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   to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,   
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