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   From: ttt_heg@web.de   
      
   Am Donnerstag000013, 13.11.2025 um 18:08 schrieb Paul S Person:   
   > On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 09:28:55 -0800, Bobbie Sellers   
   >  wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 11/11/25 23:43, Thomas Heger wrote:   
   >   
   >    
   >   
   >>> 'German' is mainly a language. But it means also a country named   
   >>> 'Germany', where the citizens are called 'German'.   
   >>>   
   >>> These Germans are not what is called a race. This term stems from a   
   >>> British named 'Charles Darwin', who actually invented racism.   
   >   
   > This is sane stuff:   
   >   
   >> 	Baloney! We had racism long before Charles took his voyage around the   
   >> world during which his observations pointed toward his theory of eveloution   
   >> by survival.   
   >   
   > This is not:   
   >   
   >>> He wrote a novel, which was called 'On the Origin of Species by Means of   
   >>> Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle   
   >>> for Life'.   
   >>>   
   >>> (With 'favoured races' he meant actually the British aristocracy.)   
   >>>   
   >   
   >  From    
   >   
   > With Murray's persuasion, the title was eventually agreed as On the   
   > Origin of Species, with the title page adding by Means of Natural   
   > Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for   
   > Life. In this extended title (and elsewhere in the book) Darwin used   
   > the biological term "races" interchangeably with "varieties", meaning   
   > varieties within a species. He used the term broadly, and as well as   
   > discussions of "the several races, for instance, of the cabbage" and   
   > "the hereditary varieties or races of our domestic animals and   
   > plants", there are three instances in the book where the phrase "races   
   > of man" is used, referring to races of humans.   
   >   
   >  From which it can be seen that "favored races" was /not/ restricted to   
   > the British aristocracy.   
      
      
   Sure, since there are also "favored races" in other countries.   
      
   (Btw: wikipedia isn't a quotable source!)   
      
   > This appears to be similar to the "kinds" vs "species" conflict, with   
   > "races" replacing "kinds".   
      
   Not quite:   
      
   the English word 'race', doesn't mean 'kinds'. It could be translated to   
   'statistical cluster'.   
      
   It means the set of items, which are mainly similar.   
      
   It was the idea of Darwin, that such clusters do eventually fight for   
   survival and build new species in this process.   
      
   But that is total nonsense, since clusters cannot fight.   
      
   Darwin's book is more a parabel and meant the British society under   
   Queen Victoria.   
      
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