From: starmaker@ix.netcom.com   
      
   On Fri, 21 Nov 2025 20:15:30 +0100, "Paul B. Andersen"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Den 21.11.2025 11:46, skrev Thomas Heger:   
   >> Am Dienstag000018, 18.11.2025 um 21:39 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:   
   >>> It is an indisputable fact that SR and GR give precise   
   >>> predictions for what will be measured in well defined experiments.   
   >   
   >> Again: you are a hopeless case!   
   >>   
   >> You HAVE to distinguish between a model and the real world, even if the   
   >> model is quite good.   
   >>   
   >> This is so, because model and real world 'live' in different domains.   
   >   
   >You are claiming that theories of physics can't make predictions   
   >of what will be measured in the real world, because a mathematical   
   >model has nothing to do with the real world.   
   >   
   >Say, how ignorant is possible to be?   
   >   
   >Consider the following:   
   >   
   >The orbital time of a GPS satellite is half a sidereal day,   
   >that is 43082.045250000 s measured by a clock on the geoid.   
   >   
   >GR predicts that the orbital time measured by a clock in   
   >the GPS satellite will be:   
   >  43082.045250000?(1 + 4.4647e-10) s = 43082.045269235 s,   
   >  that is 19.235 ?s more than measured on the ground.   
   >   
   >See:   
   >https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf   
   >   
   >This prediction is confirmed by real measurement   
   >in the real world:   
   >See:   
   >https://paulba.no/paper/Initial_results_of_GPS_satellite_1977.pdf   
   >It is even better confirmed by 48 years service of GPS.   
   >   
   >   
   >This is an example where GR gives a precise prediction of what   
   >will be measured in the real world, and the prediction is confirmed   
   >to be in accordance with real measurements in the real world.   
   >   
   >Do you still claim that theories of physics can't give precise   
   >predictions of what will be measured in the real world?   
      
   To say:  "This prediction is confirmed by real measurement   
   in the real world:"   
      
   is desperately trying to signal that they’re “empirical” or “grounded   
   in reality”..   
      
   “BUT WE MEASURED IT, OKAY? WITH A REAL MACHINE!”   
      
   It's comedy. a fucking joke.   
      
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