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   Thomas Heger to All   
   Re: No amount of experimentation can eve   
   22 Nov 25 09:50:58   
   
   From: ttt_heg@web.de   
      
   Am Samstag000022, 22.11.2025 um 04:28 schrieb Python:   
   > Le 21/11/2025 à 11:40, Thomas Heger a écrit :   
   >> Am Dienstag000018, 18.11.2025 um 21:39 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:   
   >> ...   
   >>>   
   >>>>> Both these theories of physics give precise predictions   
   >>>>> for what will be measured in well defined experiments.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do you dispute this?   
   >>>>> ====================   
   >>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I distinguish between a model and the part of nature, which that   
   >>>> model attempts to model.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> This distinction is extremly important and by no meas disputable.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> If you equate a model with the real world, you would  conduct   
   >>>> something extremely stupid.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That is like eating the menu in a restaurant instead of the meal.   
   >>>   
   >>> Again, your opinion of SR/GR is irrelevant.   
   >>>   
   >>> It is an indisputable fact that SR and GR give precise   
   >>> predictions for what will be measured in well defined experiments.   
   >>   
   >> Again: you are a hopeless case!   
   >   
   > Says the one who didn't understand a single word of Einstein's paper on SR.   
      
   I can almost sing the entire paper and absolutely understand every   
   single word or equation in it.   
      
   I have spent a lot of time upon that particular paper. And now you could   
   ask me everthing about it.   
      
   Unfortunately this is only one paper, which I have analyzed that carefully.   
      
   But still I think, that this text is just terrible crap.   
      
   It is filled with errors of all kinds.   
      
   Some of these errors are also extremely stupid.   
      
   And most of my arguments are hard to reject, if you don't want to makle   
   a fool out of yourself.   
      
      
      
      
   >   
   > Says the one who still missed that the "delay" of light propagation is   
   > taken into account in Einstein's paper, even after people have a blue   
   > tongue.   
      
      
   The very word 'delay' is entirely missing in that paper. Also the   
   treatment of something equivalent cannot be found.   
      
   Another phrase entirely missing is - for instance- 'wavelength'.   
      
   >> You HAVE to distinguish between a model and the real world, even if   
   >> the model is quite good.   
   >>   
   >> This is so, because model and real world 'live' in different domains.   
   >   
   > Sure. You are right here. But...   
   >   
   > Models live in a mathematical world and produce numbers.   
      
   Sure, but natur does not use numbers (humans do).   
      
   > In the real world engineers build measurement devices that produce numbers.   
      
   Physics and engineering are not the same thing.   
   As an engineer from education I can assure you, that engineers never   
   confuse models and the real world.   
      
   ...   
      
   TH   
      
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