XPost: alt.atheism, sci.physics, sci.skeptic   
   From: Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com   
      
   On 12/14/2025 12:32 PM, The Starmaker wrote:   
   > On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 10:14:30 -0600, Dawn Flood   
   > wrote:   
   >   
   >> On 12/13/2025 4:23 PM, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   >>> JTEM wrote:   
   >>> ^^^^   
   >>> Who?   
   >>>   
   >>>> For example, and I've already pointed this out a   
   >>>> number of times so you doubtlessly missed it but,   
   >>>> there's is no "Distance" or "Space" to a photon.   
   >>>   
   >>> We simply do not know that.   
   >>>   
   >>> While it is correct to say that zero proper time elapses along lightlike   
   >>> geodesics (ds^2 = +- c^2 (d tau)^2 = 0 ==> (d tau) = 0 ==> Delta tau = 0),   
   >>> we also know that *a photon has no inertial rest frame* as that would   
   >>> contradict the postulate of the constancy of c, one of two postulates which   
   >>> make up the special principle of relativity which special relativity is   
   >>> based on, *and* the Planck--Einstein relation E = p c = h f.   
   >>>   
   >>> Curiously, special relativity fails to describe *completely* a motion at   
   the   
   >>> speed c that it is based on.   
   >>>   
   >>   
   >> Hi Thomas!   
   >>   
   >> Thank you so very much for your post!! It's always great to have a   
   >> physicist among us!!!   
   >>   
   >> Dawn   
   >   
   > "May I Say That I Have Not Thoroughly Enjoyed Serving With Humans? I   
   > Find Their Illogic And Foolish Emotions A Constant Irritant."   
   >   
   >   
      
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