XPost: sci.physics, sci.math   
   From: starmaker@ix.netcom.com   
      
   On Wed, 17 Dec 2025 14:00:00 +0100, "Paul.B.Andersen"   
    wrote:   
      
   >Den 17.12.2025 08:50, skrev Thomas Heger:   
   >> Am Dienstag000016, 16.12.2025 um 22:58 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:   
   >>> Den 16.12.2025 08:44, skrev Thomas Heger:   
   >>>> Am Montag000015, 15.12.2025 um 14:05 schrieb Paul.B.Andersen:   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Do you never read the posts you are responding to?   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Einstein and Szilard's patent was bought by the Swedish company   
   >>>>> Electrolux, which built and sold a lot of absorption refrigerators.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In 1953 (when I was a kid) my parents bought   
   >>>>> an Electrolux absorption refrigerator.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> I and thousands of other people have seen working fridges   
   >>>>> based on Einstein and Szilard's patent.   
   >>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> No, because this is a 'non sequitur'.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Thousands of people baught absorption fridges from Electrolux.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Sure!   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But how many of them investigated, whether or not these fridges were   
   >>>> based upon Einstein's patent?   
   >>>>   
   >>>> My guess: not a single buyer did that, because nobody cared.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why are you stating this irrelevant obvious triviality?   
   >>   
   >>   
   >> This was a reply to 'my parents bougth an Electrolux refridgerator'.   
   >>   
   >> I wanted to express, that buying a fridge does not prove, that this   
   >> fridge was build according to Einstein's patent.   
   >>   
   >> Sure, Electrolux gave Einstein money.   
   >>   
   >> But that's all we could safely assume.   
   >>   
   >> Possibly Electrolux was involved in building fast breeding reactors, but   
   >> wanted to keep that secret.   
   >>   
   >> But how could we today possibly know????   
   >>   
   >>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> So, we have a few facts:   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Einstein and Szillard patented a fridge   
   >>>> Electrolux gave them (a lot of) money   
   >>>> Electrolux sold tons of fridges   
   >>>   
   >>> ... some of which were based on on Einstein and Szillard's patent.   
   >   
   >>>>   
   >>>> But where is the proof, that these fridges were based upon Einstein's and   
   Szillard's patent?   
   >>>   
   >>> The simple fact that the Electrolux fridge my parents and a lot of   
   >>> other people bought in 1953 was an absorption refrigerator with   
   >>> no moving parts which had the same machinery as described here:   
   >>>   
   >>>  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde17   
   701fab8/US1781541.pdf   
   >>>   
   >>> The refrigerator is described in detail.   
   >>>   
   >>> Why don't you read it and see for yourself? Can't you read?   
   >>>   
   >>> No sane person can read a detailed descripion of a refrigerator   
   >>> and believe that it is anything but a refrigerator.   
   >   
   >> Iow: was that patented device actually an absorption fridge or a part   
   >> needed for a fast breeding reactor???   
   >   
   >You didn't answer my question.   
   >   
   >The "apparatus for producing refrigeration" is described in detail   
   >in the patent application.   
   >   
   >  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde1767   
   1fab8/US1781541.pdf   
   >   
   >This isn't a scientific text you have to be a physicist to understand.   
   >An engineer should be qualified to read it.   
   >   
   >Why can't you read it an see for yourself what kind of apparatus its is?   
   >   
   > > > We could check that by building a 'fridge' according to Einstein's   
   >> patent and check whether or not it cools.>   
   >> But we actually don't need to do that, because a group of engineering   
   >> students did that already and found out, that Einstein's 'fridge' did   
   >> NOT cool.   
   >>   
   >> Instead it is common knowledge, that Einstein's 'fridge' is used in fast   
   >> breeding reactors.   
   >   
   >SIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :-D and ROFL   
   >   
   >>   
   >> The endresult:   
   >>   
   >> two points for fast breeding reactor   
   >>   
   >> zero points for 'fridge'.   
   >>   
   >   
   >Can you point out where in the detailed description it   
   >is clear that the apparatus is a part of a fast breeding reactor?   
   >   
   >  https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/53/e9/74/2cde1767   
   1fab8/US1781541.pdf   
   >   
   >The lines in the text are numbered, so it should be easy to refer to   
   >the relevant section   
      
   Einstein and Szilárd's invention, patented in 1930, was a pump system   
   for safer, compressor-free refrigeration, later finding use in nuclear   
   reactors, while the AquaMotion "Einstein" pump is a highly efficient   
   HVAC circulator for heating/cooling systems.   
      
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