XPost: sci.physics, sci.math   
   From: starmaker@ix.netcom.com   
      
   Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   >   
   > squalk wrote:   
   > > The Starmaker wrote:   
   > >> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:   
   > >>> Ruben Safir wrote:   
   > >>>> One of the concepts that have bothered me the most is the idea that the   
   > >>>> universe is ever exapanding.   
   > >>>   
   > >>> [_expanding_]   
   > >>>   
   > >>> We do not know that.  We know that our universe is expanding now and has   
   > >>   
   > >> "We"???? you mean me, myself and I?   
   >   
   > Astrophysicist/cosmologists.  The scientific community.   
   >   
   > >> I'm flabgastted that people till this day are testing Positive for   
   > >> Stupid in these sci newsgroups.   
   > >>   
   > >> The UNIVERSE IS *NOT* EXPANDING! It *never* has expanded. It remains the   
   > >> same size it always has been since it existence.   
   >   
   > Observationally falsified.   
   >   
   > >> The Big Bang was the 'expansion' of ...space, not the expansion of the   
   > >> universe.   
   >   
   > The Big Bang _is_ the expansion of the space of our universe.  AFAWCS it is   
   > ongoing.   
      
      
   "the expansion of the space of our universe. "??? does that even mean   
   anything??   
      
      
   Let me put it this way...   
      
   you only occupy 5% of the office building.   
      
      
   95% of space contains nothing, you occupy just 5%.   
      
      
   There is no universe..   
   it's just a few grains of sand.   
      
      
   In the beginning, ...   
      
   beginning means Time, ..spacetime   
      
   in the spacetime.   
      
   IN.   
      
   primarily indicating a state of being inside/within something (a place,   
   time, condition)   
      
      
   beginning   
      
      
   the point in time or space at which something starts.   
      
      
   IN time   
   IN space   
   IN spacetime.   
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
      
   --   
   The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,   
   to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,   
   and challenge the unchallengeable.   
      
   --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05   
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)