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|    Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because the    |
|    23 Jan 26 21:00:17    |
      From: relativity@paulba.no              Den 22.01.2026 18:13, skrev Ross Finlayson:       > On 01/22/2026 06:12 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:       >> Den 21.01.2026 18:11, skrev Ross Finlayson:       >>> On 01/21/2026 06:05 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:       >>>> Den 20.01.2026 19:35, skrev Ross Finlayson:       >>>>> On 01/20/2026 05:54 AM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:       >>>>>>       >>>>>> You are standing on the floor in a small room       >>>>>> without windows with an accelerometer fixed to the wall.       >>>>>> The accelerometer shows that it is accelerating       >>>>>> in the direction which to you is upwards.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> If the accelerometer shows that the acceleration       >>>>>> is constant 1g, then there is no way you can       >>>>>> decide whether you are stationary at the ground,       >>>>>> or if you are accelerating at 1g in a spaceship.       >>>>>>       >>>>>> If the accelerometer shows that the acceleration       >>>>>> is changing with time, then you know that you are       >>>>>> in a spaceship.       >>>>>>       >>>>       >>>> The following is obviously not a response to my post above.       >>>>       >>>>>       >>>>> As the elevator rises, according to inverse square,       >>>>> either the force is constant or acceleration is constant,       >>>>> not both. I.e. the force decreases or acceleration       >>>>> increases as the elevator rises, since distance increases.       >>>>       >>       >> You said:       >> "Either the force is constant or acceleration is constant,       >> not both."       >>       >> That can only mean that the acceleration is not constant       >> if the force is constant.       >>       >> Hence my question:       >>       >>>> Are you trying to say that if the force on an object       >>>> is constant, then its proper acceleration is not constant?       >>>>       >>>> < snip>       >>>>       >>>       >>> The gradient of gravitational force, often enough about       >>> its "depth" in the "well" of gravity, or about however       >>> it's so in GR between the space with the Euclidean metric       >>> and however it's so in the space of a body its Riemannian       >>> metric, has that since force is proportional to inverse       >>> square of distance, as distance changes, force changes.       >>>       >>> Then, "the measured acceleration", changes, yes.       >>       >> So now you say: "If force changes, acceleration changes."       >>       >> But that does not answer my question, which       >> slightly reformulated is:       >> "If the force is constant, is then the proper       >> acceleration constant?"       >>       >> Can you answer yes or no, please?       >>       >>       >       > It would be easier if it were so,       > yet, there are two inductive accounts       > that don't agree.              ..but it isn't "so" that if the force is constant,        then the proper acceleration is constant.              Your answer is "no".              Thanks!                     --       Paul              https://paulba.no/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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