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|    Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because the    |
|    31 Jan 26 20:21:15    |
      ed9048e5       From: relativity@paulba.no              Den 30.01.2026 15:59, skrev Maciej Woźniak:       > On 1/30/2026 3:01 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:       >       >> v(t) is a function of t defined by:       >> v(t) = kt where k is a constant              >> The point is that dv/dt = k for all t.       >>       >> That includes at t = 0 when v = 0.       >>       >> If v is a speed and t a time,       >> then k is a constant acceleration.       >>       >> So dv/dt may be different from zero even if v = 0.              > And is it, poor trash? Is your "v" some speed?       > What speed?              Yes, dv/dt may be different from zero even if v = 0.              And this fact will not go away because your shark is eating gras.              How do you think Newton would have answered the following       questions?       An object with mass m is stationary when t < 0.       At the time t = 0 a force F is applied on the body.       Q1: What is the body's speed at t = 0?       Q2: What is the body's acceleration dv/dt at the time t = 0?              Would he have said that the body can never accelerate because       it's speed is zero?              >> If a spaceship with mass m = 1000 kg is pushed by a rocket engine       >> with the force F = 10000 N, then its proper acceleration is       >> a = F/m = 10 m/s².              > Sure, and a proper sharks eat grass.              >> You are in the spaceship, maybe on your way to Mars. But you are       >> far from Earth and Mars, and Mars is not in front of you yet.       >> Your acceleration is obviously the same as the spaceship's,       >> but you don't know what it is.       >> How will you measure your acceleration?       > I'll use The Force. In a fantasy gedankenwelt       > I can do it, can't I, poor trash?              >> By dv/dt? Which v? Your speed relative to a planet? Which planet?       >> The only reference you have is your spaceship which is accelerating.       >>       >> A physicist may define your proper acceleration something like this:        > And he can define a proper shark as a a farm animal with       > thick wool that eats grass and is kept for its wool,       > skin, and meat. He's an idiot, why wouldn't he?              >> Your proper acceleration is the acceleration measured in the       >> momentarily co-moving inertial frame of reference.       >> That would probably not help you, so there is only one way to do it.       >> You would use an accelerometer. It will show the acceleration 10 m/s².       >>       >> An accelerometer measures the acceleration in its own rest frame,       >> where its speed is zero. But dv/dt = 10 m/s² even if v = 0.              > And a shark eats grass. You're a complete       > idiot buying this crap. Velocity "in own       > rest frame" is always 0, no acceleration.       > Sorry, trash.       You sit in your car with an accelerometer in your hand.       The accelerometer shows that your acceleration is a = 2 m/s².       According to the accelerometer dv/dt = 2 m/s².       What is v?              --       Paul              https://paulba.no/              --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05        * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)    |
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