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   Thomas Heger to All   
   Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because the   
   04 Feb 26 09:12:59   
   
   From: ttt_heg@web.de   
      
   Am Dienstag000003, 03.02.2026 um 10:07 schrieb Maciej Woźniak:   
   > On 2/3/2026 8:51 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:   
   >> Am Sonntag000001, 01.02.2026 um 14:49 schrieb Paul B. Andersen:   
   >>> Den 31.01.2026 20:43, skrev Maciej Woźniak:   
   >>>> On 1/31/2026 8:21 PM, Paul B. Andersen wrote:   
   >>>   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> How do you think Newton would have answered the following   
   >>>>> questions?   
   >>>>> An object with mass m is stationary when t < 0.   
   >>>>> At the time t = 0 a force F is applied on the body.   
   >>>>> Would he have said that the body can never accelerate because   
   >>>>> it's speed is zero?   
   >>>   
   >>> No answer, Maciej?   
   >>>   
   >>> If you hold a ball in your hand, the speed of the ball   
   >>> is zero both in its rest frame and in your rest frame.   
   >>   
   >> We can  actually chose the frame of reference we like.   
   >>   
   >> Usually we chose to be at rest in respect to ourself   
   >   
   > No we don't.   
   > Basically, when talking about earth surface   
   > we're choosing geocentric, when talking about   
   > space within close vincinity of Earth it's   
   > ECi, then heliocentric and bigger. Exceptions   
   > happen, but not very often. If we're on a big   
   > ship we'll be choosing it as the reference   
   > for many context too.   
   >   
   > Anyway, for any context motion is absolute.   
   >   
      
   'Subjectivism' is kind of 'hard wired' into the human brain.   
      
   E.g. we regard as moving what we see, but cannot see ourselves moving,   
   hence treat our own body as mainly stationary.   
      
   Even if we walk, run or drive a car, we usually maintain that perspective.   
      
   'Geocentrism' is certainly more valid, but most living beings do not   
   have the faintest clue about where on Earth they actually are.   
      
      
   TH   
      
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