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   Message 225,787 of 225,861   
   Bill Sloman to Ross Finlayson   
   Re: energy and mass (1/2)   
   22 Feb 26 20:20:07   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.design   
   From: bill.sloman@ieee.org   
      
   On 22/02/2026 6:18 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > On 02/21/2026 08:27 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >> On 22/02/2026 12:06 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>> On 02/21/2026 04:23 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>> On 21/02/2026 4:31 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>> On 02/20/2026 08:39 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 21/02/2026 3:46 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:32:18 +1100, Bill Sloman   
   >>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 20/02/2026 3:54 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:13:06 +0100, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J.   
   >>>>>>>>> Lodder) wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2026 9:56 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2026 7:49 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/18/2026 12:43 PM, Python wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2026 à 20:13, Ross Finlayson a écrit :   
      
      
      
   >>>>> I felt it helped me a lot with the post-COVID sequelae,   
   >>>>> and everything else, while it's not a usual thing.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> (Also had a nice time with the ultrasound tech.)   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> It seems everybody forget everybody has COVID.   
   >>>>> That said, the post-nasal pharyngeal swab with   
   >>>>> the Tobacco Mosaic Virus epitopes and the   
   >>>>> Omicron the "COVID-Lite" really helped crowd it out.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> A shot of remdesivir when the MERS was kicking in   
   >>>>> before COVID also seemed to help, and hopefully   
   >>>>> the Hep B vaccine was helpful, while though I   
   >>>>> never took the mRNA jab and intend never will,   
   >>>>> then also I hope to avoid the Crow-vid and Cow-vid   
   >>>>> (and, Pig-vid) and avoid food animals with mRNA jabs.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Why the anxiety about mRNA vaccines? At least you know exactly what you   
   >>>> are getting. You can't be as confident about the effect on you because   
   >>>> we've all got about a million single-nucleotide polymorphisms (out of   
   >>>> our three billion nucleotides). Enough people have had their DNA   
   >>>> sequenced that we can hope that we will eventually learn about the   
   >>>> interaction between particular vaccines and particular genomes, but   
   >>>> that's going to be a long way off.   
   >>>>   
   >>>   
   >>> Not that it's so relevant to matters of great theory,   
   >>> yet besides that the mRNA operation is not only like   
   >>> a terrible infection yet also like a junk machine   
   >>> about inflammation and also incredibly cheap and   
   >>> depending on hijacking the body's RNA replication   
   >>> mechanisms, there's also that wild-type Coronaviridae   
   >>> are part of the body's viriome and part of messaging   
   >>> and signaling in the body.   
   >>   
   >> What a load of ignorant hyperbole. The whole point of the mRA vaccine   
   >> against Covid-19 was that it didn't replicate the whole virus but rather   
   >> just the segment that latched onto the ACE-receptor.   
   >>   
   >> That segment couldn't mutate much without crippling the capacity of the   
   >> virus to infect us, so it was stable target, and it couldn't do anything   
   >> else so it wasn't going to get into the human viriome.   
   >>   
   >>> Also there's that mRNA is more authentically messenger RNA,   
   >>> it should also be mu-RNA or miRNA I suppose it is, since   
   >>> mRNA and tRNA and so on were already used. So, I'm   
   >>> simply against it since it's dirt cheap and subverts   
   >>> natural mechanisms, then that ideas like traditional vaccines   
   >>> with more expensive yet live-type results are having a much   
   >>> longer run of testing.   
   >>   
   >> In other words you haven't got a clue about what was actually gong on.   
   >>   
   >>> The other vaccines in development like the original Oxford   
   >>> vaccine were much more involved and intended to treat   
   >>> originally other diseases like those of the T-viridae.   
   >>> Then TMV post-nasal delivered epitopes and Omicron   
   >>> crowded it out, it being the successive waves of the   
   >>> contents of SARS capsid payloads.   
   >>>   
   >>> Since at least twenty years ago there's a laboratory   
   >>> where one can simply order DNA, or RNA, assembled to sequence,   
   >>> then there are virus research labs who make their own.   
   >>> It's not rocket science, though, it is virus science.   
   >>>   
   >>> Don't confuse "miRNA rejection" with "vaccine intolerance".   
   >>   
   >> Both look identical to pig ignorance. Doctor Johnson talked about   
   >> arguing precedence between a flea and a louse. I'm not going to bother.   
   >>   
   >   
   > Somehow I didn't die. Yet, ....   
   >   
   > I'm curious, how many times you got the jab,   
   > and whether you were ever, "positive", for COVID.   
      
   I've had about five or six anti-Covid innoculations. I did eventually   
   catch it after I'd had a couple, and it put me in hospital for four   
   days. My digestive system was where it struck, which was messy and   
   disabling.   
   > Here about half the population didn't get the jab.   
      
   That's poor health care.   
      
   > Stories of reactions are widespread.   
      
   Of course they are. Alarmist rumours spread like wildfire.   
   >   
   > Whether it reduced transmissibility is arguable,   
   > since it's clear that 100% of the population   
   > got COVID.   
      
   It does reduce transmission - people who catch it after having been   
   innoculated don't get as sick, and don't stay sick for as long, so they   
   spread less of the virus. Back when the population was still getting   
   vaccinated it was noticed that those who had been vaccinated were much   
   less likely to die of the disease if they did get infected.   
      
   > These days pretty much everybody still has   
   > a nominally non-zero COVID virus load.   
      
   What makes you think that? Long Covid does exist, but it's not all that   
   common.   
      
   > First time I ever saw a dead body laying out   
   > on the street, ....   
   >   
   > That cat was already out of the bag.   
   >   
   > Over on sci.math there was a great long thread   
   > "What's the best vaccine for COVID-19?", then   
   > it was appreciated that medical journals opened   
   > up, and it was rather thoroughly studied here.   
   >   
   > Matters of macropinocytosis and the like and   
   > issues with platelets and fibrosis has that   
   > the COVID-associated is a head-to-toe disease,   
   > or as rather, toe-to-head.   
   >   
   > Don't get me wrong, I'm up on MMR and tetanus   
   > and polio and about hep b, yet, not shingles,   
   > which is also endemic, I contracted the chicken   
   > pox as a youth, and not to forget pertussis or   
   > for that matter D68 or tuberculosis, and within   
   > a few weeks of going to college there went   
   > mononucleosis.   
   >   
   > No mRNA, though.   
      
   It hadn't been invented back then.   
      
   > I recall one person, over the bookstore counter,   
   > I asked how are today and Bree said "I've been   
   > out a couple days. I got the COVID shot and   
      
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