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   Bill Sloman to Ross Finlayson   
   Re: energy and mass (1/2)   
   23 Feb 26 02:42:33   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.design   
   From: bill.sloman@ieee.org   
      
   On 22/02/2026 10:24 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > On 02/22/2026 03:11 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >> On 02/22/2026 01:20 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>> On 22/02/2026 6:18 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>> On 02/21/2026 08:27 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>> On 22/02/2026 12:06 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>> On 02/21/2026 04:23 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>>>> On 21/02/2026 4:31 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>> On 02/20/2026 08:39 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2026 3:46 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:32:18 +1100, Bill Sloman   
   >>>>>>>>>>    
   >>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>> On 20/02/2026 3:54 am, john larkin wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:13:06 +0100, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> (J. J.   
   >>>>>>>>>>>> Lodder) wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2026 9:56 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2026 7:49 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/18/2026 12:43 PM, Python wrote:   
   >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2026 à 20:13, Ross Finlayson a écrit :   
   >>>   
   >>>    
   >>>   
   >>>>>>>> I felt it helped me a lot with the post-COVID sequelae,   
   >>>>>>>> and everything else, while it's not a usual thing.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> (Also had a nice time with the ultrasound tech.)   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> It seems everybody forget everybody has COVID.   
   >>>>>>>> That said, the post-nasal pharyngeal swab with   
   >>>>>>>> the Tobacco Mosaic Virus epitopes and the   
   >>>>>>>> Omicron the "COVID-Lite" really helped crowd it out.   
   >>>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>>> A shot of remdesivir when the MERS was kicking in   
   >>>>>>>> before COVID also seemed to help, and hopefully   
   >>>>>>>> the Hep B vaccine was helpful, while though I   
   >>>>>>>> never took the mRNA jab and intend never will,   
   >>>>>>>> then also I hope to avoid the Crow-vid and Cow-vid   
   >>>>>>>> (and, Pig-vid) and avoid food animals with mRNA jabs.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>> Why the anxiety about mRNA vaccines? At least you know exactly what   
   >>>>>>> you   
   >>>>>>> are getting. You can't be as confident about the effect on you   
   >>>>>>> because   
   >>>>>>> we've all got about a million single-nucleotide polymorphisms   
   >>>>>>> (out of   
   >>>>>>> our three billion nucleotides). Enough people have had their DNA   
   >>>>>>> sequenced that we can hope that we will eventually learn about the   
   >>>>>>> interaction between particular vaccines and particular genomes, but   
   >>>>>>> that's going to be a long way off.   
   >>>>>>>   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Not that it's so relevant to matters of great theory,   
   >>>>>> yet besides that the mRNA operation is not only like   
   >>>>>> a terrible infection yet also like a junk machine   
   >>>>>> about inflammation and also incredibly cheap and   
   >>>>>> depending on hijacking the body's RNA replication   
   >>>>>> mechanisms, there's also that wild-type Coronaviridae   
   >>>>>> are part of the body's viriome and part of messaging   
   >>>>>> and signaling in the body.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> What a load of ignorant hyperbole. The whole point of the mRA vaccine   
   >>>>> against Covid-19 was that it didn't replicate the whole virus but   
   >>>>> rather   
   >>>>> just the segment that latched onto the ACE-receptor.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> That segment couldn't mutate much without crippling the capacity of   
   >>>>> the   
   >>>>> virus to infect us, so it was stable target, and it couldn't do   
   >>>>> anything   
   >>>>> else so it wasn't going to get into the human viriome.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> Also there's that mRNA is more authentically messenger RNA,   
   >>>>>> it should also be mu-RNA or miRNA I suppose it is, since   
   >>>>>> mRNA and tRNA and so on were already used. So, I'm   
   >>>>>> simply against it since it's dirt cheap and subverts   
   >>>>>> natural mechanisms, then that ideas like traditional vaccines   
   >>>>>> with more expensive yet live-type results are having a much   
   >>>>>> longer run of testing.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> In other words you haven't got a clue about what was actually gong on.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>>> The other vaccines in development like the original Oxford   
   >>>>>> vaccine were much more involved and intended to treat   
   >>>>>> originally other diseases like those of the T-viridae.   
   >>>>>> Then TMV post-nasal delivered epitopes and Omicron   
   >>>>>> crowded it out, it being the successive waves of the   
   >>>>>> contents of SARS capsid payloads.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Since at least twenty years ago there's a laboratory   
   >>>>>> where one can simply order DNA, or RNA, assembled to sequence,   
   >>>>>> then there are virus research labs who make their own.   
   >>>>>> It's not rocket science, though, it is virus science.   
   >>>>>>   
   >>>>>> Don't confuse "miRNA rejection" with "vaccine intolerance".   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>> Both look identical to pig ignorance. Doctor Johnson talked about   
   >>>>> arguing precedence between a flea and a louse. I'm not going to   
   >>>>> bother.   
   >>>>>   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Somehow I didn't die. Yet, ....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> I'm curious, how many times you got the jab,   
   >>>> and whether you were ever, "positive", for COVID.   
   >>>   
   >>> I've had about five or six anti-Covid innoculations. I did eventually   
   >>> catch it after I'd had a couple, and it put me in hospital for four   
   >>> days. My digestive system was where it struck, which was messy and   
   >>> disabling.   
   >>>> Here about half the population didn't get the jab.   
   >>>   
   >>> That's poor health care.   
   >>>   
   >>>> Stories of reactions are widespread.   
   >>>   
   >>> Of course they are. Alarmist rumours spread like wildfire.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Whether it reduced transmissibility is arguable,   
   >>>> since it's clear that 100% of the population   
   >>>> got COVID.   
   >>>   
   >>> It does reduce transmission - people who catch it after having been   
   >>> innoculated don't get as sick, and don't stay sick for as long, so they   
   >>> spread less of the virus. Back when the population was still getting   
   >>> vaccinated it was noticed that those who had been vaccinated were much   
   >>> less likely to die of the disease if they did get infected.   
   >>>   
   >>>> These days pretty much everybody still has   
   >>>> a nominally non-zero COVID virus load.   
   >>>   
   >>> What makes you think that? Long Covid does exist, but it's not all that   
   >>> common.   
   >>>   
   >>>> First time I ever saw a dead body laying out   
   >>>> on the street, ....   
   >>>>   
   >>>> That cat was already out of the bag.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Over on sci.math there was a great long thread   
   >>>> "What's the best vaccine for COVID-19?", then   
   >>>> it was appreciated that medical journals opened   
   >>>> up, and it was rather thoroughly studied here.   
   >>>>   
   >>>> Matters of macropinocytosis and the like and   
   >>>> issues with platelets and fibrosis has that   
      
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