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   J. J. Lodder to Ross Finlayson   
   Re: energy and mass (1/2)   
   23 Feb 26 12:28:43   
   
   XPost: sci.electronics.design   
   From: nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
      
   Ross Finlayson  wrote:   
      
   > On 02/22/2026 07:42 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   > > On 22/02/2026 10:24 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > >> On 02/22/2026 03:11 AM, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > >>> On 02/22/2026 01:20 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   > >>>> On 22/02/2026 6:18 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > >>>>> On 02/21/2026 08:27 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   > >>>>>> On 22/02/2026 12:06 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > >>>>>>> On 02/21/2026 04:23 AM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>> On 21/02/2026 4:31 pm, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>> On 02/20/2026 08:39 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>> On 21/02/2026 3:46 am, john larkin wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2026 18:32:18 +1100, Bill Sloman   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>    
   > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 20/02/2026 3:54 am, john larkin wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 19 Feb 2026 14:13:06 +0100, nospam@de-ster.demon.nl   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> (J. J.   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Lodder) wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2026 9:56 pm, J. J. Lodder wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Sloman  wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 19/02/2026 7:49 am, Ross Finlayson wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 02/18/2026 12:43 PM, Python wrote:   
   > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 18/02/2026 à 20:13, Ross Finlayson a écrit :   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>    
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> I felt it helped me a lot with the post-COVID sequelae,   
   > >>>>>>>>> and everything else, while it's not a usual thing.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> (Also had a nice time with the ultrasound tech.)   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> It seems everybody forget everybody has COVID.   
   > >>>>>>>>> That said, the post-nasal pharyngeal swab with   
   > >>>>>>>>> the Tobacco Mosaic Virus epitopes and the   
   > >>>>>>>>> Omicron the "COVID-Lite" really helped crowd it out.   
   > >>>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>>> A shot of remdesivir when the MERS was kicking in   
   > >>>>>>>>> before COVID also seemed to help, and hopefully   
   > >>>>>>>>> the Hep B vaccine was helpful, while though I   
   > >>>>>>>>> never took the mRNA jab and intend never will,   
   > >>>>>>>>> then also I hope to avoid the Crow-vid and Cow-vid   
   > >>>>>>>>> (and, Pig-vid) and avoid food animals with mRNA jabs.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>> Why the anxiety about mRNA vaccines? At least you know exactly what   
   > >>>>>>>> you   
   > >>>>>>>> are getting. You can't be as confident about the effect on you   
   > >>>>>>>> because   
   > >>>>>>>> we've all got about a million single-nucleotide polymorphisms   
   > >>>>>>>> (out of   
   > >>>>>>>> our three billion nucleotides). Enough people have had their DNA   
   > >>>>>>>> sequenced that we can hope that we will eventually learn about the   
   > >>>>>>>> interaction between particular vaccines and particular genomes, but   
   > >>>>>>>> that's going to be a long way off.   
   > >>>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Not that it's so relevant to matters of great theory,   
   > >>>>>>> yet besides that the mRNA operation is not only like   
   > >>>>>>> a terrible infection yet also like a junk machine   
   > >>>>>>> about inflammation and also incredibly cheap and   
   > >>>>>>> depending on hijacking the body's RNA replication   
   > >>>>>>> mechanisms, there's also that wild-type Coronaviridae   
   > >>>>>>> are part of the body's viriome and part of messaging   
   > >>>>>>> and signaling in the body.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> What a load of ignorant hyperbole. The whole point of the mRA vaccine   
   > >>>>>> against Covid-19 was that it didn't replicate the whole virus but   
   > >>>>>> rather   
   > >>>>>> just the segment that latched onto the ACE-receptor.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> That segment couldn't mutate much without crippling the capacity   
   > >>>>>> of the   
   > >>>>>> virus to infect us, so it was stable target, and it couldn't do   
   > >>>>>> anything   
   > >>>>>> else so it wasn't going to get into the human viriome.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Also there's that mRNA is more authentically messenger RNA,   
   > >>>>>>> it should also be mu-RNA or miRNA I suppose it is, since   
   > >>>>>>> mRNA and tRNA and so on were already used. So, I'm   
   > >>>>>>> simply against it since it's dirt cheap and subverts   
   > >>>>>>> natural mechanisms, then that ideas like traditional vaccines   
   > >>>>>>> with more expensive yet live-type results are having a much   
   > >>>>>>> longer run of testing.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> In other words you haven't got a clue about what was actually gong   
   > >>>>>> on.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> The other vaccines in development like the original Oxford   
   > >>>>>>> vaccine were much more involved and intended to treat   
   > >>>>>>> originally other diseases like those of the T-viridae.   
   > >>>>>>> Then TMV post-nasal delivered epitopes and Omicron   
   > >>>>>>> crowded it out, it being the successive waves of the   
   > >>>>>>> contents of SARS capsid payloads.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Since at least twenty years ago there's a laboratory   
   > >>>>>>> where one can simply order DNA, or RNA, assembled to sequence,   
   > >>>>>>> then there are virus research labs who make their own.   
   > >>>>>>> It's not rocket science, though, it is virus science.   
   > >>>>>>>   
   > >>>>>>> Don't confuse "miRNA rejection" with "vaccine intolerance".   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>> Both look identical to pig ignorance. Doctor Johnson talked about   
   > >>>>>> arguing precedence between a flea and a louse. I'm not going to   
   > >>>>>> bother.   
   > >>>>>>   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Somehow I didn't die. Yet, ....   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> I'm curious, how many times you got the jab,   
   > >>>>> and whether you were ever, "positive", for COVID.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> I've had about five or six anti-Covid innoculations. I did eventually   
   > >>>> catch it after I'd had a couple, and it put me in hospital for four   
   > >>>> days. My digestive system was where it struck, which was messy and   
   > >>>> disabling.   
   > >>>>> Here about half the population didn't get the jab.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> That's poor health care.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> Stories of reactions are widespread.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> Of course they are. Alarmist rumours spread like wildfire.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Whether it reduced transmissibility is arguable,   
   > >>>>> since it's clear that 100% of the population   
   > >>>>> got COVID.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> It does reduce transmission - people who catch it after having been   
   > >>>> innoculated don't get as sick, and don't stay sick for as long, so they   
   > >>>> spread less of the virus. Back when the population was still getting   
   > >>>> vaccinated it was noticed that those who had been vaccinated were much   
   > >>>> less likely to die of the disease if they did get infected.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> These days pretty much everybody still has   
   > >>>>> a nominally non-zero COVID virus load.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>> What makes you think that? Long Covid does exist, but it's not all that   
   > >>>> common.   
   > >>>>   
   > >>>>> First time I ever saw a dead body laying out   
   > >>>>> on the street, ....   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> That cat was already out of the bag.   
   > >>>>>   
   > >>>>> Over on sci.math there was a great long thread   
      
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